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Hello all,

Well, I have a problem that has been getting worse over the last couple of weeks/month and I have limited ideas on how to approach it so need your help desperately!!!

Situation:
My rig had been OC’d for over a year no probs…Orthos/OCCT stable 8hrs/2hours. My GPU is also OC’d too no probs (see sig for specs on my current OCs). What has been happening is that I am playing a game (Oblivion in this case) and it just freezes up on me with out BSOD so I must hit the reset button and hard reboot (CTRL+ALT+DELETE does not work). I thought this was a problem with my game/mods but I have also gotten the freeze up when browsing the internet, or even randomly when I open up a file. I also am now get the freeze up when I run Orthos (CPU or Blend so far). Sometimes it wont freeze up for days and then 2 times in 1 hour like last night. It does not matter if my GPU is OCd or not and CPU temps are not an issue (GPU never gets above 66C when playing/no artifacts ever…and Orthos small FFTs load temps are 47C for the CPU). My system has been pretty static software/driver/hardware wise during this period with the following exeptions:

1. Installed 2x2gb OCZ Platinum ram about 2 months ago, not OC’d yet (ran memtest 86+ no errors at stock).
2. Installed OCZ Vendetta and temps are better than ever as stated.
3. Updated my drivers from 163.xx to 169.25 and no issues.

Now, here is where I think the problem may have come from but I am not sure if this could be the cause of it/and or how to go about testing and fixing….I bought a Seagate 500GB external HD and it had a difficult time communicating with my PC. The USB connection would come and go, and it would keep installing the drivers every time when reconnected. I also tried Firewire but that did not even work. I loaded the Memeo software and that seemed to work fine. So, I started to back up my files and at one point when it was transferring pictures, it just froze up my computer and even disconnecting it did not help. Well, I hard booted my rig but I was never able to access the external HD again (I think it bricked…it was returned by the way and all installed software was un-installed!). After this, my computer started freezing really bad pretty much everytime within minutes of booting into Vista so I quickly scheduled a checkdisk upon next startup and that completed fine (no bad sectors but it did say it corrected some OS stuff). After this, the freeze went away….or so I thought! Well, about a month ago my rig started to freeze again sporadically, then weekly, then every 3rd day or so until now it seems like very day just about. I have run 2 checkdisks since then, one just yesterday and it did not find any bad sectors or need to make corrections. I did bump up my vCore 1 notch in case that might help but have not noticed a difference.

I really don’t know where to go from here since the freeze ups don’t create a mini dump or event I can review. I don’t think it’s related to my OC, GPU, memory or drivers but then again, what do I know (I may be able to OC, but am not a computer expert!!!).

So where do I go from here? What is best for process of elimination to root out the cause of this? I think it has something to do with that blasted Seagate drive/residuals but I am not sure (maybe all the hard reboots F$%^ed something else up?). FYI, I did buy a WD Passport HD (USB powered) after the Seagate and that has worked fine for my backup.

I need help on what to do next to figure this out PLEASE!!! I am already in trouble with the wife and cannot live w/o gaming! Please let me know what you guys think and thanks in advance very much!!!!

Signed,
Very bummed out OCer!

Edited by Qbert - 6/10/08 at 2:55pm
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post #2 of 15
my experience is "usually"

bsdo= cpu, mem, or mobo driver issue

freeze during game "no bsdo" = gpu, or gpu driver issue

freeze during light load, " your situation ?"

i would suspect internal hard drive, psu, mobo driver, or bad connection ie sata cable, or power cable
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my experience is "usually"

bsdo= cpu, mem, or mobo driver issue

freeze during game "no bsdo" = gpu, or gpu driver issue

freeze during light load, " your situation ?"

i would suspect internal hard drive, psu, mobo driver, or bad connection ie sata cable, or power cable
OK, I like this consise feedback....what do you suggest I try out next?

I just ran memtest86+ for 3 hours (3 runs) as a quick test to rule out ram and no errors.

I am at home now and can try some stuff out guys....let me know! ...and thanks again!!
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I recently went through virtually the same issues on a computer. It ended up being the video card. You have one you can swap out for a bit?

Underclocking the card in question helped slow down the crashes, but it would still crash on occasion. The card in question was also an 8800, temps were also fine, and I hadn't overclocked it. It did occasionaly artifact before crashing in a couple dx10 games but usually just stopped.
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I recently went through virtually the same issues on a computer. It ended up being the video card. You have one you can swap out for a bit?

Underclocking the card in question helped slow down the crashes, but it would still crash on occasion. The card in question was also an 8800, temps were also fine, and I hadn't overclocked it. It did occasionaly artifact before crashing in a couple dx10 games but usually just stopped.
Hmm, no I don't have an extra card. My rig has crashed both in game and not and both when the GPU was OC'd and not. Did you have the 8800GTS 640?
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I was using an xfx 8800 gt alpha dog edition when I had my problems. Underclocking it to the default NVIDIA factory settings helped some, especially in games, but it did continue to crash randomly even then. I replaced it last week having RMA'ed the one giving issues and my system hasn't crashed once since.
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post #7 of 15
Could be your power supply crapping out.
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Freezing is usually motherboards or CPU problems in my case

Try declocking your CPU and see if that helps.

If it does, OC it again, just this time, use the lowest multi possible to see if it was ur mobo, if this setting fails, RMA the board

if you have issues while at stock settings.... idk post back and ill start thinking bout it
    
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It can be hardware related or software related. The hardware related problem could be tracked if you were to go on default settings (you cut the CPU and ram as a possible failure source), check and change all the power/data cables you can. If you can run on only one memory stick (swap them to see for problems). You could also remove any non-essential PCI cards (like sound cards for example).

If none worked, you could reinstall Windows to remove any debris from the drivers you had installed.

Hope it will work out.
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I have never seen software cause hardlocks.

Its almost always a grounding problem, or hardware... he needs to post back already
    
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