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I have ideas floating in my head about a possible 775 rig coming up. I've been looking at the DFI dark series mobos, but what is the difference in chipsets? like the x48 and x38 chipsets, are they better than the p35? I realize that the P35's don't do SLI, but the x38's and 48's do. I've heard the p35's are really stable, how stable are the 38 and 48's?

I guess my thread is a general, which is better for the price, the p35, x38, or x48. And I don't limit the boards to their SLI cababilities, I have no intentions to go SLI.
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Get a P45.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131297

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131295
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The x38 and P35 have very imilar specs, and only really differ in their crossfire support, but here you go:

Source: X-bit labs



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The newer chipset acquired XMP (Extended Memory Profiles) technology support. It is somewhat similar to Nvidia EPP (Enhanced Performance Profiles) Intel introduced for DDR3 SDRAM. In fact, it implies SPP extensions with information needed to use these memory modules for overclocking needs. Corresponding profiles added to the SPD bear the info on frequency, voltage and timings settings.

These are about the only differences between X38 and P35. However everything we have just mentioned turned out more than enough to require significant changes in the North Bridge of the new core logic. Of course, it affected the heat dissipation in the first place. The Intel X38 North Bridge features 36.5W typical heat dissipation, while the same characteristic for Intel P35 equals only 16W. Although the new chipset is manufactured using pretty up-to-date 65nm production process, the high TDP forced Intel to equip the chip with the same type of a heat-spreader lid that we have only seen on CPUs and server chipsets before.

Intel X38 chipset costs $50, which is about $20 more than the price of Intel P35.
Now the x48 is just a higher binned x38 chipset. They are physically identical, but can attain higher FSB then an x38. But from my experience the x38 can hold up to x48 specs easily. The real benefit is in the bios. MB Manufacturers are implementing many more tweaks, especially in the memory part of the bios, with the x48.
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Get a P45.
Dang forgot about the p45's. Those are ASUS only boards right now though, aren't they? Do any other manufactures have plans for p45 boards? Plus $200 is little steep for me.
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Dang forgot about the p45's. Those are ASUS only boards right now though, aren't they? Do any other manufactures have plans for p45 boards? Plus $200 is little steep for me.
Many manufactueres are releasing P45 chipset boards. For the money, the P35 is the way to go. Some of the newer P35 boards like the P34 Dark, have revised circuitry to handle the quads better. From what you described about only wanting a single GPU setup, go for a Gigabyte DS3R/DS3L (raid/non raid), DFI P35 Dark, ASUS P5K-E, or Abit IP35-E/Pro (non raid/raid).
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@ erieod

Thanks man,
You have cleared up the difference between x38 and x48 chipsets for me. I'm going to go study that link you gave me +rep for the 2 of you.
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Many manufactueres are releasing P45 chipset boards. For the money, the P35 is the way to go. Some of the newer P35 boards like the P34 Dark, have revised circuitry to handle the quads better. From what you described about only wanting a single GPU setup, go for a Gigabyte DS3R/DS3L (raid/non raid), DFI P35 Dark, ASUS P5K-E, or Abit IP35-E/Pro (non raid/raid).
Ohh ok I don't know where I got that idea about ASUS only doing the p45's. But thanks again, I'm aiming towards a q6700 or a q6600 so the p35's revised circuitry is a plus for me. And I'm thinking heavily on the DARK mobo, cause I just like DFI. I'm going to go compair prices though and I'll see which mobo I like the best!
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Ohh ok I don't know where I got that idea about ASUS only doing the p45's. But thanks again, I'm aiming towards a q6700 or a q6600 so the p35's revised circuitry is a plus for me. And I'm thinking heavily on the DARK mobo, cause I just like DFI. I'm going to go compair prices though and I'll see which mobo I like the best!

I would say go for the Dark! It has been tailored for the quads.
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For $100 I'm really liking this DFI DARK mobo, i'm kinda a DFI fanboy after I got the expert, and it is the cheapest too. But anyone who can talk me out of getting the dark for a better priced RAID board please do talk me out of it.

@ericeod

Hahah I didn't see your post before I posted my reply . But I really do think i'm going for the dark . Again thanks for the help.
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IDK if you will find one cheaper, or any better for a RAID board. The only subs out there are the the Gigabyte DS3R and ASUS P5K-E at about the same price or the Abit IP35 Pro for a little more.

However, the ASUS P5K Pro is on sale right now for $109!
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