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post #1 of 25
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Recently I bought a Q9450 and the first surprise I got was how high the temp readings were on coretemp and hardwaremonitor. It seems from other threads that I wasn't the only one with "misleading" readings... anyways I thought it'd be a good time to setup a WC system for the first time since the processor is good enough for me to invest my money into... however before I start buying up parts I wanted to know exactly how I would setup the WCsystem and I thought, I'm pretty sure the guys over at OCN would be perfect to ask questions at!

Anyways, here are the parts I have and how I think I would setup the system along with a few questions I have for the experts!

Components:
Gigabyte X38-DS5
Q9450
Sapphire 3780
Nzxt 850 PSU

Here is the case that I am using:
http://www.nzxt.com/products/lexa_blackline/













Here are some of the components for the WC I am considering after reading through some of the stickies!

1) Enzotech Cpu Block/Fuzion v1 CPU Block/Fuzion v2 CPU Block
2) D-tek D5 Pump
3) Enzotech NorthBridge Block
4) T-line (drain), Resorvior (fill)
5) One or Two radiators:






I'll also be cutting out the HDDrive mount inside the case to creat more space:



Besides a simple hole drill, I don't think I have the tools to cut into the casing so I would rather hold up the radiators with those metal sticks.

Here are a few questions I have for those who could help me out:

Q1) Which would be better assuming I only cool the cpu/northbridge, having one GTX360 on the top or two GTX120 (one on top and one on the back)?

Q2) What would be the most efficient way to setup the order of all my components e.g. pump->cpu->northb->rad1->rad2->res->pump...

Q3) Is the D5 pump powerful enough?

Q4) I'm going for a quiet system rather than strong cooling since I don't plan to overclock beyond 3.6, maybe just 3.2. How powerful should my fans be in terms of rpm? is less than 1500rpm okay enough?

Q5) The fittings that I need are quite confusing since the pictures I see from other WC setups aren't clear if the fittings are included or if I need to buy extras. For example, for the T-line and reservior, can I just stick the end of my tubing onto the end of the t-line/res (no pun intended) and put clamps on or is there a fitting I need to install as well?

I'm just hoping to get the system down first time around so I don't end up spending more time and money later on!! any other ideas would be great as well for the setup!
post #2 of 25
Q1- Single larger rad = better. Go with the 360

Q2- Reservoir>pump>cpu>north bridge>radiator>reservoir. Put the T line for the drain line wherever the tubing is the lowest. And the reason I suggested the cpu after the pump instead of pump to radiator, then to cpu is because the radiator will be mounted at the top, which means you would need much more tubing.

Q3- The D5 is MORE than enough for what you need, it's a fantastic pump.

Q4- 1500rpm is fine. I would go with 120x38 thickness fans because you will be using a thicker radiator.

Q5- Barbs are included in just about every product, so you shouldn't need to worry about that.

And as for the cpu block, definitely get the Fuzion V2 instead of the enzotech block.
post #3 of 25
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another important question for tubing, i found a few shops selling tygon tubing, and i remember in one of your threads u mentioned that it would be preferable to get the 1/2" tubing. could you specify what widths you were referring to?

e.g. IW, OW, tube thickness are the 3 measurements the sales person asked me about...
post #4 of 25
When I give tubing sizes, IE 7/16" or 1/2", I am talking about the ID or inner diameter. That is what you need to make sure about. 1/2" barbs will fit 7/16" tubing (tough, but you can get it to fit, I use it) and 1/2" ID tubing. If you need to make any sharp bends with the tubing, then I would suggest thick tubing. I judge thickness as the difference between ID and OD. IE: 1/2" ID-5/8" OD tubing isn't as "thick" as 1/2" ID-6/8" OD tubing. The thicker the tubing, the harder it will be to kink, but it also takes up more room.

If you're going to be using the fuzion, I recommend using 7/16" ID tubing because the barbs on the fuzion are so close that it makes fitting fatter tubing on them harder.
post #5 of 25
Kind of random but I saw someone on XS do this ages ago.

Just some different ideas for you.

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post #6 of 25
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that setup looks good, i think they put all the components outside, radiator, pump and res. looks a little messy though imo and i'd rather keep all the parts inside.

Q1) Would using a GTX240 instead of a GTX360 make a noticeable performance decrease temperature wise? the 240 would fit nicely on top of my case, whereas the 360 would overlap slightly the two outer edges... (either setup would have the rad pointing up since my computer will be in a position where up is the only wide space available, right now its boxed in by my desk, wall and closet)
post #7 of 25
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that setup looks good, i think they put all the components outside, radiator, pump and res. looks a little messy though imo and i'd rather keep all the parts inside.

Q1) Would using a GTX240 instead of a GTX360 make a noticeable performance decrease temperature wise? the 240 would fit nicely on top of my case, whereas the 360 would overlap slightly the two outer edges... (either setup would have the rad pointing up since my computer will be in a position where up is the only wide space available, right now its boxed in by my desk, wall and closet)
I would put the rad in a better place so you can make a shroud its the single cheapest way to cool your rad i lost 3c from a rear shoud
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post #8 of 25
I would definitely go with the 360.
post #9 of 25
GTX 240 will do fine, but i would recommend leaving out the NB.
post #10 of 25
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GTX 240 will do fine, but i would recommend leaving out the NB.
The x38 chipset runs pretty hot. I had to wc mine.
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