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I make the choice for the Artists that the choices they made were wrong.
I'm sure that if the artists were here on this forum they thank you for correcting their terrible mistakes...by stealing music
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I'm not advocating piracy, just saying that I think stealing =/= piracy; however both are wrong.
No, but piracy = stealing
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Special interests groups, payoffs, what?
    
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Originally Posted by xxhaloownerxx View Post
Wonder how hard it would be to convince my family to move to Canada...
I think Canada is worse in this issue, except it didn't hit just yet.
bandwidth cap, warning emails or letter regarding to piracy etc (i never get one but my friends had mentioned b4), and if ur thinking east end.... prepare for the 6m internet that guarantee to over priced, ISPs here in toronto are monoplized by 2 company one for adsl one for cable...

but again i'm sure ur just kidding.
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I still don't see how they charge whoever is uploading. If I am seeding a file then I'm not the only one that has it. Me + another seeding and 1 person(RIAA) downloading. How do they charge me since I didn't give them the file. They got part from me and part from someone else.

I would go into court with a cd, break it in half and give each half to different people. Then tell the judge thats what happened online. Neither person has working,usable file from me = no infringement.
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I think farmers should start suing people who use seeds from produce to grow their own vegetables.

Piracy is not the same as stealing.
Edited by leakyfaucet - 6/12/08 at 1:17am
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Think its fair to say 95% of people on here agree that Piracy is a form of stealing. The remaing 5%.......well you get the idea.

As I have said on another post, all the government are doing, is saying 'We're in charge and always will be'. The horse has bolted and now they are closing the stable door.

What they really should do it cut access to sites that allow access to copyrighted material (CM) illegally. But torrents do not always mean pirated material. Linux is free and available over torrents. I'm sure public documents are available that way too. So killing torrents is not the answer. What they should do is remove all links to CM via torrents. For example TPB should be told to remove all links to CM in order for the site to remain active. If they do not, then close the site down. Do that for all torrent/file sharing sites.

That would be easy to do, but why do that when governments/RIAA etc can make a fast buck by fining people. Why fine a site and its few owners when you can fine dozens of people for more money.

I'm sure we all have seen the 'Warning' screens on DVD's that say you cant copy, reproduce, lend, view in public etc etc. They are the terms of watching that film (My own view is that this warning should be on the case so you can see/read it BEFORE buying it - Don't agree with those terms, don't buy the DVD).

Technically the terms do mean that you cannot lend the DVD to your friend/gran/vicar. By that token its fair to say that more or less everyone on the whole planet is a pirate.

I'll make one thing clear though. I do not condone piracy
    
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No matter if the issue at hand is a positive or negative one, the words, ..."a bill that ratchets up the federal government's role..." will always make me sick to my stomach.
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It just seems like one of those situations that would never work out.

One can argue that piracy is a form of stealing.

On the other hand, one can argue that sharing is a form of piracy, meaning if you share a song with a friend, you'd essentially be stealing a copy (by definition).

And to complete the love triangle (or hate triangle rather), one can also argue that sharing is not stealing.

IMO all of these arguments would be valid, but they just won't work together. Maybe instead of the industry, the government, and the people trying to fight each other, each should make compromises. It's not going to help when each side feels so righteous about their stands. Frankly, each is doing something wrong.
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Piracy isn't stealing just as software isn't hardware. Don't really know why it's that hard to comprehend.
Saying piracy is stealing is like saying that breaking into a store grabbing a CD and making a run for it is the same as going on the Interned and downloading the CD.
Yep, no difference whatsoever...
It's simple logic people: when you copy something the original is unaltered, when you steal something you're stealing the original. Any other argument is made irrelevant by this one.
Just because you want piracy=stealing doesn't make it so, and saying that in every post won't convince anybody of anything other that you're annoying.
But keep trying that line, perhaps once it's been said a million times people will magically start to think it's true. (Sigh)
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