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Dropping prices before it is even released. I find this as evidence the GTX200 may be a huge flop.
Yea nvidia is in trouble especially since the reported yeilds are horrible (40% from a wafer including gtx 260 salvage parts) and the massive die size (576 mm^2) means they arnt getting many from the wafer which has a fixed cost.

The 4870 has a die size of 256 mm^2 and a report yeilds of 70% meaning ATI get alot more die's per wafer than nvidia. They both have their die's made by tsmc so they are both paying the same per wafer (in theory). For nvidia to drop its prices mean they wont make any profit im guessing until the die shrink which will happen a few months after launch. Nvidia will be in big trouble if the 4870's have the performance that is suggested from the amd slides.
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Yea nvidia is in trouble especially since the reported yeilds are horrible (40% from a wafer including gtx 260 salvage parts) and the massive die size (576 mm^2) means they arnt getting many from the wafer which has a fixed cost.

The 4870 has a die size of 256 mm^2 and a report yeilds of 70% meaning ATI get alot more die's per wafer than nvidia. They both have their die's made by tsmc so they are both paying the same per wafer (in theory). For nvidia to drop its prices mean they wont make any profit im guessing until the die shrink which will happen a few months after launch. Nvidia will be in big trouble if the 4870's have the performance that is suggested from the amd slides.
Even after the drop it will still be in 4xx mm^2 which is still huge.
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Ha, that's pretty sad if that's their price drop.
That's what I was thinking.

So Ati still has a better card that is cheaper. This doesnt change anything.
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post #34 of 63
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Dropping prices before it is even released. I find this as evidence the GTX200 may be a huge flop.
I was wondering the same thing......strange that they're dropping the price even before release.
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Yea nvidia is in trouble especially since the reported yeilds are horrible (40% from a wafer including gtx 260 salvage parts) and the massive die size (576 mm^2) means they arnt getting many from the wafer which has a fixed cost.

The 4870 has a die size of 256 mm^2 and a report yeilds of 70% meaning ATI get alot more die's per wafer than nvidia. They both have their die's made by tsmc so they are both paying the same per wafer (in theory). For nvidia to drop its prices mean they wont make any profit im guessing until the die shrink which will happen a few months after launch. Nvidia will be in big trouble if the 4870's have the performance that is suggested from the amd slides.
That is some deep, deep trouble.
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post #36 of 63
how can the price drop when it isn't even available for consumers? it is all speculation right now.
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post #37 of 63
So is the GTX260 better than a 3870X2?
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post #38 of 63
Rob, the price difference between brands shouldn't be big unless they overclock em and even then it will be under 30$ probably.
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So is the GTX260 better than a 3870X2?
No idea by the 4870 is better then a 3870x2.
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post #40 of 63
Guys, NVidia will be throwing money down the toilet if they keep slashing prices like this. They're getting 40% yeilds for the GPUs used in both the 260 and 280. The GPU itself is about 120(each GPU) now figure in 40 out of every 100 are good, the other 60 are trashed. Now add in the 16 chips of GDDR3, the overly complex PCB, and 512bit interface layout. If NVidia keeps the 260 at 399, they will be losing money just by selling it. The 4870 on the other hand, can be sold for 250, and still return a profit.

Oh, and remember when the HD3870 was going to be released? The initial price was 350 as well, when it became available though, it only costed 265ish. Same thing is going to happen here.
Edited by RussianGrimmReaper - 6/11/08 at 8:26pm
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