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I thought I read somewhere that the graphics core in the 360 was based on the same core as the 7950GTX???
No it's an ATi chip. The PS3 is based off a 7900 i think.
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i wonder how much they spent just developing the 360.....
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Actually, 360s get the RROD when there is an error which the 360 can't identify. So really, the RROD is multiple problems. Not just this so called "main cause".
This is the main cause of getting the RROD error. There are other reasons for getting it, but they are not common.

I guess this is what MS gets for cheaping out lol.
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I thought I read somewhere that the graphics core in the 360 was based on the same core as the 7950GTX???
Your thinking of the PS3 GPU which is based off the (G71) 7900GTX IIRC. Im confused. So ATI didn't originally design the 360 GPU?
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This is the main cause of getting the RROD error. There are other reasons for getting it, but they are not common.

I guess this is what MS gets for cheaping out lol.
then why can damn near every RRoD be fixed by simply changing the clamp system that holds down the HS?
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then why can damn near every RRoD be fixed by simply changing the clamp system that holds down the HS?
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"Had Microsoft left the graphics processor design to an ASIC vendor in the first place, would they have been able to avoid this problem?", Lewis asked before answering himself. "Probably. The ASIC vendor could have been able to design a graphics processor that dissipates much less power."

To fix the problem, Microsoft went back to an unnamed ASIC vendor based in the United States and redesigned the chip, Lewis added. (rumors have it that the ASIC vendor is most likely the former ATI, now part of AMD.)
The hotter chip causes the clamp to warp. ATI is based in Canada... and Nvidia sure didn't make the chip. Im doubting this article TBH.
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Then it would have to get very very hot for it to warp that steel. Really. And i guess they fixed it because my 360 can take hours upon hours of constant non-stop gaming.

And yes they are based in Canada but they have an office in Silicon valley.
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Blame t3h gap!
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post #19 of 30
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Then it would have to get very very hot for it to warp that steel. Really. And i guess they fixed it because my 360 can take hours upon hours of constant non-stop gaming.
Its a pretty hot chip. Theres a reason the 360 fans are almost always on.
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It sounds like ATI designed the chip itself, but microsoft designed the PCB.
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