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One reviewer said that he got a sound violation from his landlord because his neighbor complained. And she was deaf.... Apparently he shook all the pictures off the adjoining wall in her unit.
Cough: B.S. Cough: the sub is moderately loud at best. try running dual 15's on 1K RMS in the house It's a fairly accurate sub in terms of SQ but it can't hit the real lows for nothing.
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Cough: B.S. Cough: the sub is moderately loud at best. try running dual 15's on 1K RMS in the house It's a fairly accurate sub in terms of SQ but it can't hit the real lows for nothing.
But can those subs hit the higher bass tones with accuracy and clarity? Say for example, can they keep up with Sting and his bass guitar? 15s are too boomy for my taste. The Z-5500's produce more than enough bass for almost anybody. You either listen to rap and think the only sound that is important is stupidly loud bass or have a large room with at least a decent home theater. I'm going to assume the latter of the two. We're talking computer speakers here.
Edited by Zulli85 - 6/11/08 at 11:05pm
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gaa never thought about the optical delay it has. sorry dillard my bad.
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post #24 of 31
greatest bass and sound for pc speakers. especially for the 200 dollars i spent legit
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post #25 of 31
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But can those subs hit the higher bass tones with accuracy and clarity? Say for example, can they keep up with Sting and his bass guitar? 15s are too boomy for my taste. The Z-5500's produce more than enough bass for almost anybody. You either listen to rap and think the only sound that is important is stupidly loud bass or have a large room with at least a decent home theater. I'm going to assume the latter of the two. We're talking computer speakers here.

My dual Adire Audio Tempests would most defiantly keep up with most anything I threw at them, considering where I had the xover set at, because the mains were large enough to do most of the work themselves. And yes this was all setup in a fairly large room. Aprox 20’ X 45’. I listen to a very wide variety of music, including some rap, mostly old school stuff. I can’t stand 90% of the new stuff that is out now, it all sounds the same anymore so I just stick to the classics. Every once in a while I’ll find a decent one but that happens like once in 10,000 songs it seems. Most SQ headz say that about 15’s but they just need to be in the right enclosure most of the time, unless they are some strictly SPL sub. I have been designing and building custom enclosures for the better part of 9 years now as a hobby.


As for the 5500 producing more than enough bass for most, well agreed above 40 Hz, below that, the 10†and high tuned enclosure really shows its head. You can of course turn the “boost-volume†up on the controller however, that effects the entire range, yet still shows a small improvement in the extreme low end, at the expense of a major loss of SQ throughout the rest of the range. I have yet to find a good 30+ band eq for the PC as of yet. The 5300 series sub with its 4th order bandpass enclosure, had no problems with the extreme low end however, it did sacrifice a bit of quality in exchange for being able to reach down to those lows. Maybe if they had used the 10†from the 5500 coupled with a well designed 4th BP they could have gotten the best of both worlds, or used a nice TL to blow everyone away.


I recently decided to do away with my H/T in exchange for the space, simplicity, and decent sound quality that this set offers. I am currently using them for the PC, H/T, and counsel gaming. I am just tired of hearing that this sub is such a monster, when it fails in comparison to most decent quality H/T subwoofers.
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post #26 of 31
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My dual Adire Audio Tempests would most defiantly keep up with most anything I threw at them, considering where I had the xover set at, because the mains were large enough to do most of the work themselves. And yes this was all setup in a fairly large room. Aprox 20’ X 45’. I listen to a very wide variety of music, including some rap, mostly old school stuff. I can’t stand 90% of the new stuff that is out now, it all sounds the same anymore so I just stick to the classics. Every once in a while I’ll find a decent one but that happens like once in 10,000 songs it seems. Most SQ headz say that about 15’s but they just need to be in the right enclosure most of the time, unless they are some strictly SPL sub. I have been designing and building custom enclosures for the better part of 9 years now as a hobby.


As for the 5500 producing more than enough bass for most, well agreed above 40 Hz, below that, the 10†and high tuned enclosure really shows its head. You can of course turn the “boost-volume†up on the controller however, that effects the entire range, yet still shows a small improvement in the extreme low end, at the expense of a major loss of SQ throughout the rest of the range. I have yet to find a good 30+ band eq for the PC as of yet. The 5300 series sub with its 4th order bandpass enclosure, had no problems with the extreme low end however, it did sacrifice a bit of quality in exchange for being able to reach down to those lows. Maybe if they had used the 10†from the 5500 coupled with a well designed 4th BP they could have gotten the best of both worlds, or used a nice TL to blow everyone away.


I recently decided to do away with my H/T in exchange for the space, simplicity, and decent sound quality that this set offers. I am currently using them for the PC, H/T, and counsel gaming. I am just tired of hearing that this sub is such a monster, when it fails in comparison to most decent quality H/T subwoofers.
Your post was quite satisfying in that you showed me you are not the run of the mill kid who listens to rap and rap only. Posts like this please me. Perhaps we have similar tastes in music as I also listen to very little rap, and the rap that I listen to is old school. Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five is one example.

Anyway, you said that your 15s kept up very well because your mains did most of the work; We are talking just a subwoofer here. You also happened to bring up my only gripe about the Z-5500's subwoofer. I also really enjoy those really deep bass tones and I would like to set and keep the Hz below 60 to really hear them. But like you said the volume has to be so high that it takes away from the other speakers. I also have these speakers in relatively small room and I never have the volume cranked.

You are right that the Z-5500s will fail while compared to a real H/T setup, but is it really fair to compare PC speakers with a H/T? I don't think so. Bottom line is that these speakers for $180 (that recent Dell.com deal) is a real steal and for that price anyone should be happy with them.
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I like some of the beginning rap stuff like Grand Master Flash and the likes but listen mostly to the late 80’s early 90’s stuff ie. Scarface, 2PAC, E-40, and Too $hort, amongst a plethora of others. I listen to more rock than anything, but again with the timeless stuff. I don’t exactly remember when this crap nowadays started to really turn into death, alternative, EMO music but I can’t stand that either. I like some hard rock like the older Metallica & Korn, BLS, and Pantera, but usually stick with Joe Satriani, Aerosmith, and Led Zeppelin/Pink Floyd type stuff. Every once in a while I will pop a good Bass cd in the Jeep and bass out for a few minutes to get that full body massage and clean the wax out of my ears haha. I’m running a single 15†RE SX in 4.837^3 @26.62 HZ on a JBL BP 1200.1 (about 1500 RMS) it will get rid of any bass fix I might need LOL. A 20 HZ tone in there is unreal Some might not be able to hear that, but you can sure as hell feel it lol.

Back to the H/t setup, I could adjust the Low-pass xover from 30 - 200 Hz, 24 dB/octave, and usually had it set around 50-60 Hz because my mains consisted of sealed 15†woofers that didn’t have any problems reaching that low. I did have the subs set around 120HZ for a few weeks but there was just too much bass output overall vs. everything else, so down the xover went on the subs, and everything leveled itself out.

As for comparing the 5500’s sub to a normal H/T sub, I do think that it is relevant as a lot of people use those home theater in a box setups and consider them to have adequate bass responses and the fact that it is a 10†in a somewhat large ported enclosure with a fair amount of power going to it. You could very easily compare the 5500 sub to that of a blose “bass unit†thingy which is considered by many “unaware consumers†to be top of the line haha. As for comparing the 5500 to normal PC speakers, well I think that is an unfair advantage as they are more like the HTIB setups than your normal 2CH PC speakers without a sub at all. Also with the addition of the optical toslink input and wireless remote (really THX Logitech) I think that puts them more into the realm of H/T speakers with the option of PC usage. And just out of sheer curiosity, how many PC speakers do you know of that are THX certified? ESP when THX certification is more heavily geared towards movie reproduction than anything. HTPC’s haven’t hit the mainstream markets just yet

In my personal opinion, even at the regular price of approximately $300 they are a good deal, at $180 a steal, just keep in mind that below 40 HZ they are not near where they should be. THX for the recognition that I am not a kid, and have a relative idea of what I am talking about concerning the quality and reproduction properties of the Z5500-Z5300e series of speakers/subs. Much oblige.
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My suspicions that we have similar tastes in music are indeed true. Zeppelin and Floyd have had huge influences on my taste in music. I went through huge phases with both of them and I also had a big 80s phase. Of course there were a plethora of other bands in between just like you were saying.

It sounds like you have a nice setup in your Jeep but its hard to make me think differently about a particular size of sub. 15'' is just too much for my liking. But that is just me, to each his own.

When I had said that it isn't fair to compare the Z-5500s to a HT, I did not take into consideration HTIB setups. I was referencing a HT in which you would purchase each component separately to really suit your taste. I suppose that a comparison between a HTIB and the Z-5500s is indeed quite fair. I also never thought about how many sets of PC speakers are THX certified. Both of the Logitech sets that I own(ed) are. I take it that there are not a lot of PC speakers that have this certification though.

We are in agreement that the Z-5500s are great PC speakers for the money. You really can't go wrong. We also agree that the sub is quite lacking below 50 hz. Keep up the quality posts, this has been a solid conversation.
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post #29 of 31
download "lil wayne - a millie" and turn the bass up 1/2 way on that sucker.

oh and be prepared to be yelled at by anyone living near you...
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download "lil wayne - a millie" and turn the bass up 1/2 way on that sucker.

oh and be prepared to be yelled at by anyone living near you...
Agreed you can get some decent bass out of that song but it is no where near the frequency I am talking about with serious lows. Here's a few for you to check out
E-40 Da Dummy
Lil wyte Hoods run down The very beginning
Young Jeezy White girl
Basstronics Bass I love you
Or how about Pink Floyd Speak to me/breathe (the first 20 seconds that YOU can't hear
Ludacris Blue Berry yum yum
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