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Why is the MPAA pushing digital only when they are still on 24fps film? When they get out of that stone age they can pursue this.
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Hi!

Please do not let them do this - at least not yet.
Until there is a way to record encrypted QAM on your own hardware (that is, not on the cable company's DVR or with TiVo) via CableCARD tuners, this shouldn't be allowed.

I believe that the MPAA wants to lock the HD DVR market to their own commercial solutions.

Once everybody who are interested own these commercial DVR sets, there will not be much of a market for companies like Hauppauge who would be interested in making CableCARD-based encrypted QAM tuners.

Therefore, this could even be seen as an attempt to monopolize the market.
Additionally, as is with solutions like TiVo or cable company DVRs, consumers are forced to periodically pay an additional fee to use it,
which does not come with tuners - which you only need to pay a one time fee to use.

Systems like TiVo have a one time fee as expensive as most tuners, and then charge you annually.
All of this makes it seem like they are trying to lock the market to their own tuners and hardware.

It is also not a coincidence that the only PC CableCARD tuner available ships with expensive HTPCs and is locked to the motherboard and OS of the HTPC.

Analog outputs allow consumers to use analog digitizers which accept HDTV resolutions to archive TV shows, albeit at a lower quality.

Japan already has a HDTV CableCARD-like tuner called the Friio...the world usually follows Japan within a few years.
This would delay the wide, affordable (consumer-friendly!) availability of CableCARD HDTV tuners further, anywhere from a few years to a decade.

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Edited by Coma - 6/14/08 at 11:57am
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Why is the MPAA pushing digital only when they are still on 24fps film? When they get out of that stone age they can pursue this.
I'm sure that woudl be a very expensive switch and it wouldn't surprise me if there is some legal situation as well regarding that plus as it sits right now is it really making thta much of a difference in quality other then when you stop a frame and look at it still image like?
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I'm sure that woudl be a very expensive switch and it wouldn't surprise me if there is some legal situation as well regarding that plus as it sits right now is it really making thta much of a difference in quality other then when you stop a frame and look at it still image like?
Yes, it is a quality issue. Very few TVs pass 3:2 pulldown testing, especially if the signal is interleave.
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Huh? Are you talking about the TV doing the pulldown, or respecting it?

Besides, pulldown has nothing to do with the quality that comes with 24fps FILM... if it flickers when you pause it because of the field distribution, that's a pulldown/interlacing issue, not a FILM issue.
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Huh? Are you talking about the TV doing the pulldown, or respecting it?

Besides, pulldown has nothing to do with the quality that comes with 24fps FILM... if it flickers when you pause it because of the field distribution, that's a pulldown/interlacing issue, not a FILM issue.
I don't know what you're talking about since I clearly was referring to the TV's capabilities of performing the pulldown. Obviously the pulldown wouldn't be necessary if they would move into 30fps filming, and the pulldown is a source of image quality issues in many instances. Besides, the film industry is behind the times as many other sources of video utilize 30fps.
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post #27 of 34
...?

I've never ever seen a situation where the TV needs to perform the pulldown (the stream comes hard telecined at 59.94i or 50i)... I've only ever seen DVD players do pulldown on streams that were flagged with DGPulldown.

Progressive TVs need to perform IVTC or deinterlacing, but pulldown? oO

Anyway, yeah. Hopefully they'll move to real progressive frames as progressive scan TVs get more popular. There's no need for them to film at 30 fps, just get rid of telecine...
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...?

I've never ever seen a situation where the TV needs to perform the pulldown (the stream comes hard telecined at 59.94i or 50i)... I've only ever seen DVD players do pulldown on streams that were flagged with DGPulldown.

Progressive TVs need to perform IVTC or deinterlacing, but pulldown? oO

Anyway, yeah. Hopefully they'll move to real progressive frames as progressive scan TVs get more popular. There's no need for them to film at 30 fps, just get rid of telecine...
Yeah, and that's why TVs claim to have 24p capabilities...
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What? I don't see how that relates oO
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What? I don't see how that relates oO
Seriously? 24p capability implies it is able to take the 24fps signal and do the pulldown itself, so how is this not related.
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