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I have no problem with this if the FCC sets this up so it cannot be abused, what they are proposing is simply turning off the analog for the speceil pre-dvd releases until the DVD comes out then turning the analog back on for this movie. If you have the digital cable and stuff you have an advantage in what you can view and experience so I don't see why they can't offer additional functionality for those who use digital connectors as long as everyone else can participate after the dvd is released. It's not like they are turning off the analog outputs for all of TV, just early release movies.
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Seriously? 24p capability implies it is able to take the 24fps signal and do the pulldown itself, so how is this not related.
Why would it need to do the pulldown, ever? 24p capability means it can display 24 fps progressive. It's a progressive screen (LCD HDTVs), why would it do pulldown when it can just display it like it is?

Anyway, I can't come up with a situation where a LCD HDTV would need to do pulldown... when DVDs come as filmed flagged for pulldown, the player does the pulldown.

Otherwise, the stream is hard telecined/interlaced (TV).

Maybe in the case of playing progressive AVI on a DVD player, but then the DVD also does the pulldown for compatibility with old CRT TVs. TVs never get a progressive stream.

When outputting from a graphic card via S-Video or something, I'm guessing the graphic card does whatever it needs to do.
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Does anyone think the FCC will actually listen?

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Why would it need to do the pulldown, ever? 24p capability means it can display 24 fps progressive. It's a progressive screen (LCD HDTVs), why would it do pulldown when it can just display it like it is?

Anyway, I can't come up with a situation where a LCD HDTV would need to do pulldown... when DVDs come as filmed flagged for pulldown, the player does the pulldown.

Otherwise, the stream is hard telecined/interlaced (TV).

Maybe in the case of playing progressive AVI on a DVD player, but then the DVD also does the pulldown for compatibility with old CRT TVs. TVs never get a progressive stream.

When outputting from a graphic card via S-Video or something, I'm guessing the graphic card does whatever it needs to do.
What the "p" stands for is not the point... For starters, 24 frames does not divide evenly into 60 as you know, so the pulldown is necessary and artifacts will be generated. Secondly, even those 120Hz TVs, with a few exceptions, still perform the pulldown rather than displaying the frames outright. Whether the DVD/Blu-Ray/HD-DVD/whatever player performs the pulldown or the user selects the option to output it to the TV at 24fps and have the TV do the work doesn't matter. There will still be a weird frame. Not to mention, things would be much smoother at 30fps than 24fps so that alone should warrant such a transition by the film community.

Consider this my last post on this matter since I do not wish to be the victim of overzealous infraction amounts for "going off-topic."
Edited by stargate125645 - 6/16/08 at 8:16am
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Seriously? 24p capability implies it is able to take the 24fps signal and do the pulldown itself, so how is this not related.
few things to think about though. it could just mean it can display something that is already in that format. marketing and wording are fun things.

how many toatsters have you seen that are Y2k complient? I've seen a bunch and lights, and alarm clocks that don't even have a date on them just time, and all that. so does that imply that my toaster can handle date functions since it is y2k compatible?
I see what your getting at with that but sadly doesn't make it so always cause marketing always tries to push theline with missdirection

damn it stargate didn't realize it was you. people and changing their avatars. it's like goign in for plastic surgury just worse
Edited by rx7speed - 6/16/08 at 9:25am
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