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I've never had a problem with mine, but I don't run them 24/7. SilenX aren't meant to be run for more than a few hours each day, that's their draw back.
True, but I have some myself, and they're specs get blown out of the water with the tiniest turbulence.
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I've never had a problem with mine, but I don't run them 24/7. SilenX aren't meant to be run for more than a few hours each day, that's their draw back.
HUH...then what do you expect a computer fan to do? work half the time?
ANY PC fan should be able to run 24/7...and you recommend these to others....?
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If you get Yate Loons, get them from petras and no where else. From Vapor over at XS

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Yate Loons are a big deal. In modern computers, we've shifted toward numerous large, quiet fans...so price becomes more noticeable in end-cost. And they're the least expensive fans you can buy, come in many varieties, and ultimately, pretty damned good. Actually...some are great and others suck.

In my testing: one thing became very clear, the one variable for determining quality is place of purchase. Petra's Tech Shop Yate Loons outperformed the others by quite a bit. And most importantly...they performed differently. They had different physical characteristics.

Simply, Petras has different Yates than everyone else.

Further investigation and chatting brought up this important fact: Petras is the only retailer to deal directly with Yate Loon. Other retailers (Jab-Tech, P-PCs, etc) unfortunately use a middle-man. This middle-man can apparently sell them fans at costs below what Yate Loon would sell to them, so the business choice was clear.

Why did Petras stick with Yate Loon directly? Not sure...but we should be glad they did. Their $4 Yate Loons are among the best-as-tested fans, competing and beating fans 2-6 times their price. Furthermore, they really don't have any 'bad' qualities other than being sleeve bearing (which isn't a bad thing for most people, but it makes a difference for some).

How are PTS fans different from non-PTS fans:

1) different voltage scaling. 12V may be similar...but at 5V the non-PTS fans spin noticeably slower (but aren't that much quieter, if at all). This could be a good thing, but it does sacrifice tunability in the mid-range.

2) different radiator performance. The fans may have identical blade structures, but put them both on a radiator and suddenly the non-PTS is sucking wind. PTS Yates have CFM-loss numbers comparable to most 38mm-thick fans. They're excellent on radiators.

3) different performance growth over time. 0-hour numbers are very similar. That is, take the out of the box, plug them in and test, and they appear to be the same. Run them both for 24-hours and retest and like most fans, the PTS Yates get 1-2% better. The non-PTS fans drop back nearly 10% and often develop odd noises. Ultimately, performance for the long-term is important, not performance right when you get them. PTS fans have a major advantage here.

4) external appearance. There are minute differences in external appearance, the 5xx are very noticeable, 6xx less so, and 7xx nearly or exactly identical. This means that new fans are no longer externally discernible. This is not a good thing...at least with the older fans you could pick them up, look at them, and know which one was the good one.

5) internal appearance. PTS has done a take-down of some of the various offerings and the internal differences were shocking. Nothing 'bad' necessarily, but it was clear they are very different fans.
That's a good bit to read, but it's worth your time. Personally, I love the YL's I got from petras.
post #14 of 17
I bought four of these yate loonshttp://www.petrastechshop.com/12yalod1blle.htmland I love em in my 900. Theyre much quieter and seem to push more air than the Antec tricools that came with the case. I also got one of these to control them withhttp://www.petrastechshop.com/5sckmamufuco.html.when Im not on I can turn em down to dead silent and kick em up when Im gaming. LOVE IT!
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That's a good bit to read, but it's worth your time. Personally, I love the YL's I got from petras.
Gir, as usual, has kicked up a thread to a different level. I don't wanna start a re-hash of the XS Yate Loon thread (its so long, its so interesting... its so time consuming), but the Petra's YL's are a bit different. That being said though, I picked up a few from jab-tech a week or two ago, and am pretty pleased with the results.. They are now closed-corner fans (official word from YL is that they don't make open corner.. but you still do see them), they also seem to move the same air and are just as quiet as the PT variant.

*ONLY* difference I noticed was one of the things noted in the XS quote, which is speed scaling.. If started from zero on a Rheobus, it takes a bit more juice the get the jab-tech fan spinning.. So if there's any real redeeming factor in my eyes for the PT Yate Loons, its the sensitivity to voltage, which IMHO, is worth every penny..

... This post by one who has bought Silenx fans in the past, and has been unimpressed
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While the Yate Loons at Petra's may be far better, the Yate Loons I got from Performance PCs are by no means push-overs. They are still plenty good fans. I plan on upgrading to Noctuas this summer, though.
    
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ive always liked the Xilence red wings, spin at 1400 rpm and push in the region of 40 CFM, i have 5 on my CM690 atm and the only fan i can hear is the one from my eVGA 8800gt stock cooler
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