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post #11 of 26
How accurate are these? All the other ones say the ATI cards spank the 9800GTX and the 4870 spanks the 9800GX2. I just can't wait for the release of the 4870 to get some accurate data that you can rely on.
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Why exactly would you trust this information? 'This looks spot on to me' is something you could only say if you had some idea before hand about what the results should be. You're basically saying this information looks correct because it fits your expectations. Logically, that's pretty faulty. Whether or not the information pans out to be correct, what we do know now is that in its current form, this information is inadequately trustable, especially hosted on it168.com. Lol. Rep -10

I call fake.

GDDR3 vs GDDR4 or 5 won't make that big of a difference from the other performance data we've heard.

Does the R770 have 480 or 800 shader units?? Here it is shown at 480 like early tape-outs. But there's a lot of (weak) information that the final part is designed around 800 shaders.

Rob
Edited by RobRedbeard - 6/12/08 at 9:08pm
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post #13 of 26
Quote:
Originally Posted by RobRedbeard View Post
Why exactly would you trust this information? 'This looks spot on to me' is something you could only say if you had some idea before hand about what the results should be. You're basically saying this information looks correct because it fits your expectations. Logically, that pretty faulty.

I call fake.

Rob
I think they look about right too man.... the Nvidia and 3870 scores are almost dead on with what they score normally, and the 4870 scores are close to what you would expect them to be, judging from the specs.

Your argument against him would be valid if we knew NOTHING about these cards, but the fact is we do, so we can make assumptions on the performance.

I call Plausible.

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I think they look about right too man.... the Nvidia and 3870 scores are almost dead on with what they score normally, and the 4870 scores are close to what you would expect them to be, judging from the specs.

Your argument against him would be valid if we knew NOTHING about these cards, but the fact is we do, so we can make assumptions on the performance.

I call Plausible.

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Oh really...and what do you expect the scores to be? How could you possibly even make a guess without any proven benchmarks yet

You call plausible do you? I say wait for some legitimate benchmarks before vouching for anything
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post #15 of 26
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I think they look about right too man.... the Nvidia and 3870 scores are almost dead on with what they score normally, and the 4870 scores are close to what you would expect them to be, judging from the specs.

Your argument against him would be valid if we knew NOTHING about these cards, but the fact is we do, so we can make assumptions on the performance.
Well, my point is that right now we are very unsure how many shaders are even on the GPU. We are also very unsure what the effect of splitting the clock on the core and shaders will have on the R770. Finally, we are very unsure what the total effect will be from increasing the texture units on the chip.

Those are three big uncertainties that make it very difficult to estimate just how it'll work. Either way though, adding validity to something on the basis of conjecture and group allegiance is crap and we should all strive to do better. I already see enough of that around me everyday, I'd like OCN to rise above it.

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post #16 of 26
The scales are totally screwed as it is. I get 17k+ with my dual core at only 3.6Ghz and their 3870x2 doesn't even break 13k. These tests are way off.
post #17 of 26
Why must they test it on these games? 2/3 of these games suck, and none of which I play........however if the 4850 is this speed then the price is amazing.....it beats the 9800GTX in many cases.
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post #18 of 26
Isnt the 4870 meant to have 800sp's? so it should be better than what they are saying here. looks like a good card IMO
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post #19 of 26
bang/buck.. 4850 can't be beaten. xD
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post #20 of 26
Meh I will just wait untill a bigger more reputable site gets a 4870.
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