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Well! Where to begin Okay. Like posted in the welcome section, I've been OC'ing for a long time, but never ventured into the world of liquid cooling. This is something I am about to change . Currently, my rig as it is now runs quite well. But, load temps get too high to my liking and the box sounds like an F16 jet taking off

I did some reading around on watercooling, and found the nice guide about top and budget parts. That was a helpful guide. But there's so much more I'd like to know.

The first thing I'm planning on is to replace the almost 7 years old T301 case. While fancy looking, with the desire to run SLI any time soon and the increased size of componentes, notably air coolers, the airflow in the case is sort of crap. Let alone there's no space for liquidcooling components. Now I found this great company which seems to have the answer for all these problems:

http://www.mountainmods.com/u2ufo-op...top-p-257.html

That is the case I plan on buying, which should have *plenty* space for my setup, a 2nd 8800GTX and a decent water loop. And that brings me to the questions I have.

The components I plan to cool with liquid are:
  • CPU, Q6600 G0
  • 8800GTX x2
So the first question would be.. what would be the most ideal loop? And when it comes to the graphics cards, would it be best to parallelize the loop or put them one after another?

Then the next question would be. What would be the loop order for possible best performance? Since the case has plenty room for a 2x120mm rad and a 3x120mm, I plan on getting two rads.

Logically I'd say: Pump > CPU > 2x120mm rad -> 8800GTX x2 -> 3x120mm rad.

But maybe that's not a good idea. I'm sure there are people around here who may have better suggestions

Then, for such a setup, what components should I choose? For the rads I've been thinking about those ThermoChill PA 120.3 and .2. For the GTX' 2 full-cover swiftech blocks. I'm not sure about the CPU block yet. And since it's quite a big loop, I am not sure of the pump either. Maybe even two pumps/loops to separate the CPU and grafix cards.

If possible at all, I'd like to order all LC components at MountainMods along with the case, so I don't need to deal with multiple transport costs. I live in Europe, in the Netherlands, so this one-stop shop would really be best. I am not going to skimp on any component. Budget is no issue (well, shouldn't go over $1000 though, I'm not THAT rich lol).

Soo.. I am hoping that together with the help of you knowledgable guys I can come to a list of high-performance components that would last me quite some builds, together with how to best set up the water loops.

The reasoning behind wanting to go water and get quality gear is that I intend to stick with the current mobo (790i) for quite some time to come and want to go SLI with it. Since Intel will be releasing Nehalem some time soon, and NVidia not being licenced to build chipsets, I don't see an SLI upgrade path in the forseeable future for the new procs. So I decided to stick with the 790i, get a 2nx 8800GTX which are cheap now, and possibly down the road just upgrade the Q6600 to a 45nm Q9550 or something. That should get me at least a year and a half ahead. Secondly, the new case I am drooling over for once and for all deals with all the space and cooling problems

Wew! That was quite the write-up! Thanks for any help..
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I'm actually cooling a Q6600 G0, NB, SB, and 2x 8800GTX in the same loop with a D5 pump, a BIX360 and an X-Flow BIX360. My loop order is: Pump -> CPU -> SB -> NB -> BIX360 -> GPU1 -> GPU2 -> X-Flow BIX360 -> Fill-T -> Drain-T -> Pump.

The LIANG D5 (aka Swiftech MCP655) is a very solid/powerful pump that can handle just about anything you throw at it and runs very quietly.

I would not recommend the Swiftech Stealth block since it has an aluminum top and can cause corrosion issues in the loop; for a full cover block you'd be better off with one from either DangerDen or EK-waterblocks.
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Thanks for the reply

I've been looking at different components some more and I think the pump you are referring to is the one I eventually chose, from Swiftech that is. *takes a look in shopcart* Yeah the MCP-655B. Looks like the pump is sorted then.

Am I correct you are using 2 3x120mm radiators in the same loop too? I gave it some more thought and was about to omit a 2nd radiator, seemed a bit overkill. But, with two GPUs in there having a rad between CPU and the 2 GPUs would still be necessary when going for aggressive OCs on the GPUs. So far I haven't OC'ed my GPUs yet, because the card already runs freaking hot on stock cooling.

As for the CPU block, I initially chose a Swiftech Apogee GTX Extreme. I'm not too sure if that would be a good choice. It's Swiftech's top-of-the line CPU block though. But perhaps there are better blocks.

As for the rads, I'm doubting between the Swiftech MCR-320 or the Thermochill PA120.3 and the 2-fan variants.

Good point about the swiftech block. If alu in the loop would cause trouble I better pick something else. Too bad though that the webshop Mountain Mods isn't selling any other than the swiftech ones. I'll have to see if there's another webshop around that would sell full-coverage copper plated blocks. I am not really familiar with existing models, so I have no idea what to search for.

Thanks for the tips so far
Edited by MagicBox - 6/13/08 at 7:43am
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I'd set it up with 2 loops one for CPU and one for GPU...Don't get the Swity "B" pump it has 30% less flow then a vario model does..You would need 2 of them, I wouldn't use a single res, use a res for each or t-lines for each...

If you want the best just get the PA rads instead of the Swifty...If you are going to use ultra low cfm fans you might want to just get the Swifty, they do well with ultra low cfm fans to.The PA will scale better with higher cfm fans a lot better then a Swifty..I'd at least use this size fan on any rad..86cfm Pana..120x38mm fans have higher pressure and can scavenge air through the rad better....

The GTX do better then either one of those with 47cfm to high cfm fans...

..360 GTX Beats PA.3 Using 47cfm YL Fans

..Martins HWlabs 480GTX Thermals

I'd grab the Fuzion for CPU...

Here is some stuff to read, I'll leave you my cleaning and set-up PDF also, be sure to read all the stickies here, there is a lot of good info in them...

..Assembling your Custom Watercooling Setup

..Poll: Push or pull configuration for Radiators

..Part 1- Temp's with and with-out shrouds

..PC Water Coolant Chemistry - Part I

..Cooling - An In-Depth Look
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