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Originally Posted by XenoRad View Post
There's another review going around where the GTX 280 scored 34 FPS in Crysis @ 1600x1200 4AA and 16 AF.
Considering the FPS here are almost double I suspect some thing's not right.
Are we bearing in mind that this was done VIA DX9?

(and on XP of course)

That may be the reasons.

Most bench reviews I see on the said are typically done on a DX10 testbed.
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Does words CUDA and PhisyX mean anything to you?
I see no technological advance on ATI 4 series. DX 10.1 support in useless,
since there will be no games supporting it. Their CTM technology is no match
for CUDA. Plus they gonna implement Intel's Havok, which isn't developed by
them and therefore can't be their win. While ATI card is an interesting
offering (price/performance wise), nVidia have the technological edge just
like they do most of the time
.
CTM (Similar to CUDA) has been working for a greater length of time than its
nvidia counterparts. Infact, theoretically, you can write a middleware layer
for CTM that implements CUDA's C extensions and APIs, while, for CUDA, your
locked to whatever Nvidia gives you.

Both CUDA and CTM have their Pros and Cons, but its hard to comment
that nVidia has been on the "Technological edge", definatly when it still
dosen't support the original intentions of DirectX10, nor 10.1 (Ethier to
prevent game developers to adpot the 10.1 standard so Nvidia remains
the king of peformance or, Nvidia dosen't want to shell the cash needed
to rework an entirly new archetecture to take full advantage of the 10.1
standard.)
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Mind if u show me where i did say that they will be supported? I'd like to see that, cause i don't recall it... It was a RESPONSE ON THE COMMENT FFS. Don't make up stuff that's not there.
Then why are you touting physX through CUDA as some big achievement? its not even going to be adopted "FFS"...

Intel processors use Havok. Amd Processors use Havok. ATI is currently working with intel to implement GPU based havok.

Why would any sane game studio develop their game's physics engine for CUDA if more than 50% of the market isn't going to be able to run it?

CUDA based PhysX won't ever be adopted for the same reason that not a single game has taken advantage of ATI's Tessellation core.
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Then why are you touting physX through CUDA as some big achievement? its not even going to be adopted "FFS"...

Intel processors use Havok. Amd Processors use Havok. ATI is currently working with intel to implement GPU based havok.

Why would any sane game studio develop their game's physics engine for CUDA if more than 50% of the market isn't going to be able to run it?

CUDA based PhysX won't ever be adopted for the same reason that not a single game has taken advantage of ATI's Tessellation core.
I wondered what happened to tessellation......

Also, yet another thread that Nowyn is hailing NVidia as the king and ATI inferior
Nevermind the recent actions that have hurt technological advancement with DX10.1......

BTW just because NVidia bought the Physx rights doesn't mean that their GPUs can support games that were coded to use Ageia Physx cards. It's a completely different hardware set.
Edited by binormalkilla - 6/14/08 at 11:03pm
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we must all wait for tom's hardware for the most accurate REVIEW!

(i trust them, 90% of the time)
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we must all wait for tom's hardware for the most accurate REVIEW!

(i trust them, 90% of the time)
TOm's Hardware is pretty NVidia biased. I would wait on Guru3d.com.......they're excellent! They show a variety of games, and best of all they're the least biased that I've noticed.
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post #67 of 72
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Since when does the 8800GTS 512MB get 40 FPS in Crysis with 4 AA and 16 AF @ 1600x1200 and Very High?

And how the hell can the 8800GTS 512 MB get 200 FPS in Company Of Heroes @ Highest settings? I get like 50 with my sig rig.

Fake.
Whack Graphs.

No way the 8800gt can get 24fps @ 2400 1200 resolution. Maybe SLI?
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post #68 of 72
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... Also, yet another thread that Nowyn is hailing NVidia as the king and ATI inferior ...
Actually, i just disagreed with a member who said "ATI technologically > nVidia". In a rough comparison both team are pretty much on the same technological level.

But whatever, it is pointless to say anything with all that ATI hype going around, cause ATI fanboys will eat u alive. And they don't care if u haven't biased ATI product in any way (too bad, but ain't gonna find such comments on my behalf), they will make stuff up (that's not in ur posts) and then counter that.

There's no real numbers on 280/260 yet, cause all the leaked reviews show completely different numbers. Only legit reviews of 280/260 after official launch will tell the story themselves.
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The sad thing here is that, there isn't a game out that needs a new card. I skipped the 9 series and most likely skip this one unless Crysis 2 comes out. Looks like my GTS's will be around for a but longer.
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Just wow, learn to read and stop accusing me of something i haven't done. I have no idea where do u people find me BSing ATI in any way. All i said is that ATI no way in hell have technological edge and that's just about it.
ATi has: DX10.1, which works well when nVidia doesn't buy it off or force Microsoft to change the specs of DX10

55nm, which reduces temps quite a bit

a better dual GPU design (3870X2), as compared to the 7950 GX2 (first attempt for first attempt)

i could go on but i don't think i need to.
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