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When software chews up website bandwidth for reasons other than people actually viewing content, the owners of those sites get a little upset. Many companies understand this, so web-crawlers are often respectful and don't abuse sites when snooping around for information – and they also make themselves well known. That's why a recent surge in traffic on some sites had piqued the curiosity of many webmasters. Apparently, a relatively new security tool owned by AVG has been identified as a huge bandwidth hog and a generator of false web traffic statistics.

The software works pretty simply. When someone runs a search through a search engine, it automatically takes the results (perhaps the first 10 results) and visits them, scanning them for malware before the user has a chance to see them. The idea is that it can protect users from malware before they ever even have a chance to visit the site. A good idea on the surface, but it seems that the owners of affected websites aren't as happy with it. The bigger issue at hand is that the AVG software attempts to mask itself as a real user, which can complicate things if trying to filter it out. Bad for the bad guys, but also bad for the good guys.

This is an interesting look at robots on the web today. AVG's stance is that they do what they do in the name of security – and are unlikely to change the behavior of their software.
http://www.techspot.com/news/30460-a...h-hogging.html
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Well i give props for AVG they are one of the few AV that actually do a good job. NOD32, AVG, Kaspersky, and panda are the ones I always recommend to my customers. But since my store only sells Kaspersky, I give them that. Plus I use Kaspersky my self(got 2 free years for department training, one year per disc, took two discs).

Kaspersky works well because it watches all internet connections. Programs that connect to the net automatically flag and Kaspersky asks me what I want to do with them before it allows the program to connect. Also if it's a program that constantly connects and you want it to, you can set it to automatically allow with no questions.(other ones do this too.) I also like how it tells you exactly where the file is on the computer and you can just copy and paste the link in to IE(IE 6 and older is the same thing as windows explorer) or explorer and it takes you right there.

I also like the fact that it will tell me in the middle of a download from lime wire if it's a virus or a trojan before it finishes.

One thing I don't like about it is the sound it makes when it finds something harmful on the computer. It sounds like a pig being raped in the ass and squealing.

Also it's the only useful one my store that actually works with 64 bit.
    
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WoW this is interesting, I have never had a problem with anything from avg. I actually recommend it to most people.
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Well i give props for AVG they are one of the few AV that actually do a good job. NOD32, AVG, Kaspersky, and panda are the ones I always recommend to my customers. But since my store only sells Kaspersky, I give them that. Plus I use Kaspersky my self(got 2 free years for department training, one year per disc, took two discs).

Kaspersky works well because it watches all internet connections. Programs that connect to the net automatically flag and Kaspersky asks me what I want to do with them before it allows the program to connect. Also if it's a program that constantly connects and you want it to, you can set it to automatically allow with no questions.(other ones do this too.) I also like how it tells you exactly where the file is on the computer and you can just copy and paste the link in to IE(IE 6 and older is the same thing as windows explorer) or explorer and it takes you right there.

I also like the fact that it will tell me in the middle of a download from lime wire if it's a virus or a trojan before it finishes.

One thing I don't like about it is the sound it makes when it finds something harmful on the computer. It sounds like a pig being raped in the ass and squealing.

Also it's the only useful one my store that actually works with 64 bit.
You can change sound by going into Apperance and then Advanced.
That's if your using Kaspersky Internet Security Suite 7.
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You can change sound by going into Apperance and then Advanced.
That's if your using Kaspersky Internet Security Suite 7.
I'm only using the AV7.0 not the suite. I wish they gave me the suite though, that has a firewall in there.
    
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AVG puts together a method for people to view a websites "infection status" before actually going to the site. Good idea.

AVG puts together a bot that masks it self as a user, to scan websites for malicious content before a user views the page, generating unwanted bandwidth usage...

Sounds like any other political argument. Do the pros out weigh the cons?

The fact that AVG as already replied to this with the statement that they don't plan on changing their current methods, leads me to believe that they are not aware of the seriousness of the situation. This idea also leads me to believe that AVG didn't think this one though all the way as they were making this, or thinks there is no problem with this...

I would like to get deeper into this... I would really like to know if AVG really thinks there is no problem by doing this, or just doesn't know what they are doing.
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AVG puts together a method for people to view a websites "infection status" before actually going to the site. Good idea.

AVG puts together a bot that masks it self as a user, to scan websites for malicious content before a user views the page, generating unwanted bandwidth usage...

Sounds like any other political argument. Do the pros out weigh the cons?

The fact that AVG as already replied to this with the statement that they don't plan on changing their current methods, leads me to believe that they are not aware of the seriousness of the situation. This idea also leads me to believe that AVG didn't think this one though all the way as they were making this, or thinks there is no problem with this...

I would like to get deeper into this... I would really like to know if AVG really thinks there is no problem by doing this, or just doesn't know what they are doing.
Well the way I look at it, yes it's generating false traffic, it's helping people keep their computer alive longer. It's always better to have more computers on the net to give you more potential hits then less potential hits. But then comes the false traffic thing since thats how most sites make their money through the traffic and adds on there.
    
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i disabled it. its easy.
but AVG should add the option in the installer.
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that feature is so useful on most peoples computers because most people would visit those sites if it didn't tell them not to. i don't care if it's bandwidth hogging... but my real problem is the advertisements that happen every time you update now. I use Avira personally, which does have the advertisement every time it updates, but we did some testing at my shop where we intentionally downloaded viruses, spyware, rootkits, etc. and avira caught the most out of all the programs we tried.
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As a user it seems good but as a guy trying to get a website running i'm definitely not liking what this could do.
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