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I'd recommend that a 14 year old try his best at school in order to have the option to go to a good university that offers computing courses. A+ certification doesn't mean a thing unless you want to work in a typical small-time PC repair store.
I agree. A 14 yr old should be a 14 yr old. Trust me, getting into the rat race sooner isn't going to pay dividends later. Education now, mixed with play, hard work later.
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Really??? I had to change out the Defuser in our HP Laser Jet at work today.... printer info is only useless to a home PC user and you won't be tearing down and repairing $6000.00 printers. It's NOT useless in anyway if you work in the IT friend as a repair tech (which is what A+ was meant for). The stuff on the dot matrix pritners could really be cut out, but the A+ is in no way "useless" and it's foolish to pass it off as such.

In addition working in the IT field is not like working at McDonalds. Pay is almost ALWAYS based on qualifiction, experience, and education (not standard wages). The more certifications, education, and experience you have, the more money you can ask for when getting a job, so again, stop talking about A+ being useless.

I second this. When I was first starting out, a guru at home and doing behind the scenes backdoor tricks and testing, I really thought I knew what I was doing. When I landed my first job, I did know alot! about 1 PC, or about a small workgroup's worth though.

When it came down to managing thousands of computers with objects, managed in different locations that needed security, I found myself feeling pretty small and very overwhelmed.

Certs/degree or both coupled with experience is the pinnacle, they all work synergistically. Its tough to work without the other.

I personally have: A+, Net+, Security+, MCSE, MCSA, MCP+I

Go get that A+!
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Is it a tough job market even with an A+ cert? Is there still a long way to go before landing a decent job (read: career) (Also, would it be required to go back to school and get an official computers background?)

After around a year at my current job, I realize it's just not for me and really, never was. (accounting isn't for everyone!). So just said why don't I go for something I love. So if this is the way in, sign me up!
To land a really decent job that pays well (i.e., network/systems admin) you are going to need a lot more than an A+. I would say you are going to need A+, Net+, Sec+, CCNA (or at least a class or some formal training on cisco products), MCP, MCSA/MCSE plus you are going to need some experience and are going to have to move your way up. Rarely does anyone jump straight into administering a network.

SQL DBAs are in hot demand right now. It wouldnt be a bad idea to focus on SQL if it interests you.
    
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Is it a tough job market even with an A+ cert? Is there still a long way to go before landing a decent job (read: career) (Also, would it be required to go back to school and get an official computers background?)

After around a year at my current job, I realize it's just not for me and really, never was. (accounting isn't for everyone!). So just said why don't I go for something I love. So if this is the way in, sign me up!
Here was my approach. A+ (as many have stated before) is a good "foot in the door". A+ will help you land an entry level IT job. The good part about this, is that most companies will pay for their IT staff to further their education. So now you're making $15.00 (that's pretty standard for a repair tech anywhere OTHER than a PC repair store such as best buy), getting experience in an IT related job, and you're no longer footing the bill for your own education. Also, while the A+ really doesn't go into detail about the things like server administration, getting a job as a repair tech for a medium\\large company will get you experience in these things as you'll have to atleast work with the admins, if not help them at times.
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Oh, I totally understand that an A+ isn't going to land anything more than an entry level position. Every career path starts somewhere. But is an A+ enough to get started in the career or should a degree in computers be part of the plan as well (I don't think my accounting degree would do much good ).

Although I am planning on asking my firm if I can switch over to IT and see what they say (of course while trying to get certified and the same time). Much easier than starting the whole search process over again. Especially since they need people who are familiar with the software that I use at the moment for work.
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Oh, I totally understand that an A+ isn't going to land anything more than an entry level position. Every career path starts somewhere. But is an A+ enough to get started in the career or should a degree in computers be part of the plan as well (I don't think my accounting degree would do much good ).

Although I am planning on asking my firm if I can switch over to IT and see what they say (of course while trying to get certified and the same time). Much easier than starting the whole search process over again. Especially since they need people who are familiar with the software that I use at the moment for work.
If I was a hiring manager in your firm and you worked in Finance, I'd consider your A+ and also consider that your degree (more specifically in accounting) is pertinent to finding the finite details and you could transfer those skills over. I'd expect a quick transition and quick learning curve starting at the bottom. Thats me personally though.

I'd ask...Its always easier said than done, but the old adage 'you never know unless you ask' pertains here.
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Oh, I totally understand that an A+ isn't going to land anything more than an entry level position. Every career path starts somewhere. But is an A+ enough to get started in the career or should a degree in computers be part of the plan as well (I don't think my accounting degree would do much good ).

Although I am planning on asking my firm if I can switch over to IT and see what they say (of course while trying to get certified and the same time). Much easier than starting the whole search process over again. Especially since they need people who are familiar with the software that I use at the moment for work.
Certifications and experience generally hold more weight than a degree. If you are looking to make it to the very top of your IT firm then plan on getting a degree. If you just want to be a sys admin forever then forgo the degree.
    
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Is this A+ certification thing in the UK as well?
    
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Oh, I totally understand that an A+ isn't going to land anything more than an entry level position. Every career path starts somewhere. But is an A+ enough to get started in the career or should a degree in computers be part of the plan as well (I don't think my accounting degree would do much good ).

Although I am planning on asking my firm if I can switch over to IT and see what they say (of course while trying to get certified and the same time). Much easier than starting the whole search process over again. Especially since they need people who are familiar with the software that I use at the moment for work.


Well exactly. I am in school to be an Electrical Engineer. The AHSC, Atlantic Health Sciences Corp. here hires EEs but they also require you to have A+. Tons of people graduate as an Engineer and still don't know how to troubleshoot a PC.

It's just extra black to put on your resume. Usually nothing more. Unless you like Geek Squad?!
    
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Is this A+ certification thing in the UK as well?

Not sure, but check out www.comptia.org
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