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Well you never know .
Did you know that The SB will be over clockable I already have most of setting on board actually using one .SB Speed Spectrum ,of course you did, we are all overclocking nutts aren't we.
man I just did a 4 nighter figuring out these board to run the 9850.
Hidden settings some work some don't yet or maybe they do and I am just in over my head.

I know on the DQ6 if your are in bios and you hit <ctrl> + F1 key it will show you advance chipset settings . Right now I seeing what it all means. It has to with the SB and HT . I think there is some fine tunning there.
but i will get to you on that .
mean while any ideas do i have it wrong , well i guess I will findout soon enough!
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i think he wants you to overclock your phenom and then tell what speeds you got and how you did it???
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Originally Posted by ZigZagFreeBurning View Post
Well you never know .
Did you know that The SB will be over clockable I already have most of setting on board actually using one .SB Speed Spectrum ,of course you did, we are all overclocking nutts aren't we.
man I just did a 4 nighter figuring out these board to run the 9850.
Hidden settings some work some don't yet or maybe they do and I am just in over my head.

I know on the DQ6 if your are in bios and you hit <ctrl> + F1 key it will show you advance chipset settings . Right now I seeing what it all means. It has to with the SB and HT . I think there is some fine tunning there.
but i will get to you on that .
mean while any ideas do i have it wrong , well i guess I will findout soon enough!
Holy Moly

Keep us updated !!!
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Hey Guys I was a little whacked yesterday and no it is not drugs .It was a lack of sleep. Me and Buddy of mine that happen to just drop by to visit.
I phone him up and told him I just bought the new 9850 be he was like right on are you ready to test it and find its weak spot . I was like yes I want to find out were speed meets productivity that is were I want this process to be. The Happy medium between both.

For those Of you that won't get that . read here! these are just numbers to show you .it is easier to use large #'s for scores

Multipliers:

OK you over clock you're CPU to lets say 2.6 ghz you get 11650 3d mark score from an unclocked score of 10650. It like yes I increased by 1000 pionts that is way much faster then it was. I want more .So you take up to the next step which is 2.8ghz a 200 mhz not a big deal but you find you score just went down 100 points so now your 3d mark score 11550. Then is like well I am still faster then my base score of 10650 but slower then my first increase of 11650. so you go up again 2.9 ghz , now your score is 12650 wow other increase by another 1000 points . You think a bit and try another step up which is the big 3.0 ghz but you find that it is not stable so you say that is all i got until i up the voltage or something. but you are wrong

now let's see b3 stepping 3 is odd # so ever 3 steps has to be odd well yha it will be right. yes if you keep using multipliers it will. but now you have to use bus speed or voltage. Voltage is a good bad thing. It stables the cpu but makes heat.
roughly ever .025 you go up your cpu heat will increase around 2c. Now what I'm saying is you got more to do then add voltage . you got options here and in the end it all comes down to being stable no matter high your voltage will be it play a vital part. but we are not even close to using it yet so don't worry it causes head echs .

SO you increase bus 1 mhz at a time to find out yes you can get more with out moving voltage. How much more is up to the cpu clock and what ,it can take andthat is for you to find out.
Now 1 and 0 are usally neutral when it comes to stepping by bus 1 may or may not count as odd# but it is hard to find out where this might happen and at which decimal point .because it is used allot more then other numbers.
example when over clocking the most used number for last number will be -----.
so I pick the next # 3 i love 3.
with 3 we can figure out which number 1's count if needed but most of the time it won"t come to that only on your end result.
to prove my theory get cpuz or something like it and watch you cpu do it's stepping. you will see your bus speed go up and down same with core and ht link speed

this part it is hard for me to explain to you because to explain math in it would maybe take days. So I going to give my settings and explain for now what i look for to let me know I am in a sweet spot and this 9850 has a few of them all the way to 3.7 ghz 1 and 0's if you start with an odd the only thing that will screw up caculations are 1 and 0. take 3.6 add 1 to 3 you got 4 bad add 1 to 6 you got 7 subtract 3 from 7 oh theres that 4 again so most time 4 will be bad even number for 3 ghz so to be safe i rather the result to be lower then 4 that is a lot 1 or 3 is less so less chance of going over board .
back to watching cpuz what you need to look for is consolations of odd numbers if this don't happen you stepping is even. there will be even numbers for sure there has to be it is counting .it is the # after the . you will be watching on all three cpu speed bus speed Htt link
Ever time you see odd # numbers line up the second next speed will be even
and in that sequence
so if goes odd , even etc..... good
but if goes odd ,even , even not good because you cpu just skipped a step and there are a lot of things that can do this voltage to much or to less and so on
Ok I have another Job and it calls but I will at you at this and play a bit keep you cpu low when doing this under 2.6 and above 2.5 and do some testing with it

I am ruining 2.992 <-- i will talk on that 2 later
cpuz shows me 1 3 5 .1 cpuspeed .3 bus speed . 5 Htt speed
1 4 6
1 1 5
1 2 4

ever odd count is odd # cpu is doing it job relaxing which means it has more time doing other things

2.99 3.0 3.1 ghz 3.2
15592 3d mark score 15016 3d mark score 16850 16011 get it yet lol
I heard tbl could be something do with even #'s but that is hear say

enjoy it will be awhile before I come back and type again I hate typing reminds me of coding



little note using them # up top 2.99 and 3.0 2.59 will give to better score then 2.6

odd 3 stepping that is why it 2.5 ghz not 2.6ghz

i tried to explain the best i can and if you have negative on it .don't bother
Edited by ZigZagFreeBurning - 6/15/08 at 7:41am
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my speed 2.992 14.5 mutiplier with 206 bus speed 2.9 odd (good) now to get it at as close to 3 as i can 206 bus speed you say why don't u use 15 mutiplier it is odd but 0 that number again 200 * 15 = 3.0 <-- zero it will be o e o but eventually it will skip a step and go o e o e e o (o's are odd e's are even) simplefie 1+0 is one it don't change so when it get's a 2 it wouldn't chage it if 0 was a 1 it would change it to a 3 which is odd .so to carey on 3 + 15 is 18 even .So actual cpuz would show: o e o e e it would miss a step . confusing i know but u use 3 and 5 is 8 so if you went 208 for bus speed with 14.5m you would get 3016 not good so go down 1 207 so you got 207* 14.5 = 3001.5 step the .5 3 times you get 1.5 or out the decimal and it is 15 odd in cpuz it would be even odd even
Though i heard that the pure cross fire by sapphier does some odd steps but not sure of this .They are one of the top boards money wise so no body has one ,but the odd few that are out there are by pure crossfire fans and you know what I want to really see the results with the 9850 I bet you they are better but again hear say.I also bet they are in the 3.3 to 3.5 ghz range on air and lots more room to go.
I was going to buy this board but to find one was hard ,One that i didn't have to pay for alot for shipping.
maybe they will .5's in our bus speeds or htt speeds and that would really improve for tighter numbers.
The 2 is false i got as close as I could get . most of the time it is a one but it shows up 2 because agian we i have a board the steps even. so i use the bus speed to change this 1 mhz maybe all it takes. and the 2 is on the 3 decimal piont so it is not that important. you can get by on it.

Intel has it easy go steppin G 0 that is a zero not an o . Natural # like 1 so ever step is 1 clock to 1 mhz stream line 1 for 1 less work but more speed needed to be as fast as b3 on therory but they do have good clock ratios
DR-B3 is i think 3 clocks to 1 mhz there might be a decimal there like 1.3 mhz but not sure of that.

now why would amd open up the mutiplier because they used there heads they did this so you can use that to get higher speeds and use the buse to make you #'s uneven. if they didn't every one would be busing the hell of the cpu and that means the word dead.

bad locked up for ever unrecoverable when you see you cpu do this in cpuz before it crashes odd even odd even even even odd odd odd even even then blamo no blue screen just black . computer dosn't shut off even with power button cpu is in a loop it working don't get it wrong but it trying to fix mixed stepping but the will come back and will try again .it will go on for ever until you kill power 99% chance it will be ok but that 1 % is what you got to worry about.

look at that guy who got 3.7 mhz he use the bus speed of 212 i think ,,and that sounds right even odd make odd , odd odd make even. that was on water I am convince this can be done on air as well . you just have to have the numbers more tighter hard to do with these even stepping boards like get that 3.7 with a bus speed 202 i didn't work it out but mutiplier would be to high that is why he went with 212. I do wounder did he know what he did there he must of.
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odd stepping is where your busspeed can be mutiplied .5
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sorry my therory may be a little off but you do get the idea I hate for people to tell me I am wrong when I trying to show them what to do that will help. yes when I type my grammer sometimes goes way off and spelling isn't all that hot but no one should get things handed to them on a gold platter yes some know what i talked about fine that is ok you my correct me but don't do it in way that puts me down help me .
when i am done typing i am done i don't want to prof read because i am done
when I think to bring up memorris I get head echs that is why I don't do this on a profession scale .
yes I been around commadore 64 and 128 days coco2 and so on.
you want to game online u brang a old dial phone and a peace hardware that was big.
and you rembered command lines they went through head even in your sleep.
logo 1 and 2 I loved those programs

i been away from the over clocking scene for a bit
things may be new but it all comes from the same bottom line
fastest computer may turn out to be the slowest.
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you look at my voltage say this guy uped his voltage what is he talking about. this is where it is insink 1.424 will diffrent even on the same board it has to do with your cpu batch you got the # is the batch # on top of your cpu.
through tests I found mine to be at 1.424 that is where current meets heat . that voltage is where my cpu will produce less heat when I bring this baby up and before i do that i got to do some math and more tests .
I did have it 3.3 but I got heat issues or ramm issues i believe it is ram though I stand by cur balistix but think I got timming or something wrong if you over clock keeping ram at auto will not help. but i will figure it out. it passed all test but it spikes in heat .
it could be alot of things so i will start at the minnor .
i will regrease my cpu no I am not lapping it to me that is cheating.
plus i made this diccsion because i for got to write down my batch #

like I said earlier I been away from over clocking for awhile what is the best grease on the market today .Last i heard artic freez was really good did that change.


it spikes up but comes down It very much might be my greasing I was never good at it.
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lol @ brake records xDD
watch and see watch and see i already broke scores in 3d mark and sandra compaired to 9850 at 3.2 ghz and i am @ 2.99 ghz

who would clock there 9850 to an even .2 ghz on a 3 stepping cpu it is amd not intel .they must of read the G0 stepping and took that G0 was meant for everybody to make it G0 quicker.

oh yha they may not admitt it but I bet U it freezes on certain programs or games or shut down for no reason CPU looping Sucksssss
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