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ZigZag, I wan't to say that I had my doubts in the beginning when you had been up late, and I was actually in tears laughing last night reading one of your posts, but alot of what you say makes sense.

Alot of your numbers are similar to what I've observed in my own tests lately.

One thing I would like to mention is that when my memory was running at 800, I could get the FSB up around the 230 range stable depending on the CPU multi. Now at 1066, I can only get around 210. I'm about to do some testing of my own and I'll report here as well as my MB/CPU combo thread, as alot of others are getting this.

I'm going to start by running 3Dmark at a known, easily stable OC of 2.8@14x200. With +.025V on the CPU. All other voltages are stock, aside from 2.2V to RAM, which i will keep there throughout.

edit - I'm curious what your think about the DR-B3 revision, and what it means.
Edited by OpticWaves - 6/16/08 at 12:00am
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yes i am not running it there .
I am at 3.015.3 now but i am going back up.
I think it was CPU compound or grease I call it .
just to make sure I am stepping it like i did the first time. I really want to make sure that was the problem the greasing that is.
sorry if you can't make out what am typing but what do you do ?
Ok right now I am running my bus speed at 240 with a 13 multiplier at 1.45 volts, (which I can knock down I have left it up because letely I have been trying to really push for a stable 3.4 at no higher than 1.5v) ....that gives me roughly 3.12 Ghz.... I can't remember my ram voltage right now for some reason...I'll look it up in just a bit and post it... which is running at 960 right now with stock timings 5-5-5-15. Is there anything else you want to know?

p.s. I love this Mobo it has a ton of options for overclocking and saves my settings... the best mobo i have ever had my previous ones...not even half as good. Oh and I think it just takes me a while to get used to your typing, lol. Sorry about that... I'm catching what you're saying now!
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Here the performance and test results of the easy stable OC of 2.8@14x200.

I have a couple question about my results.

1-Why does CPUz report my memory at 533Mhz, and Memset at 597.5Mhz, also shows a higher NB speed?
2-Is it more important for me to look at the TMPIN0 temp in HWMonitor, or the individual core temps?

Next I will start raising the multiplier and adding voltage until I hit 58C, then I start getting wimpy.
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Here the performance and test results of the easy stable OC of 2.8@14x200.

I have a couple question about my results.

1-Why does CPUz report my memory at 533Mhz, and Memset at 597.5Mhz, also shows a higher NB speed?
2-Is it more important for me to look at the TMPIN0 temp in HWMonitor, or the individual core temps?

Next I will start raising the multiplier and adding voltage until I hit 58C, then I start getting wimpy.
rule of thumb don't let you machine sweet dude 58c I would not let my temps do that to me that is high or boarder line but i would try to get it down to 55 or lower on full load. 3c goes along way in this world
make sure you got up to date cpuz 1.45 is current i think

if you take your ram down to 533 1066 specs and then bring it up with the cpu bus and it should do this automatically. then use M 13.5 with a 207 bus result would be around 2794.5 <-- notice an odd number . this may bring temps down a bit because now you giving ram some of the heat load.

watch out for bus 208 it is a even number and the 9850 seems to like odd numbers because of the 3 step. I have tested this over and over and it seems to be right.
You may try 209 for a bus speed but watch out it seems that 210 is the magic number, about the highest you can get with 1066 ram unless under clock it to 800. (I think this is due to the poor ram support with most boards for DD 1066 ram) or raise memory clock and make sure it is not lower then your htt link speed ,it can be above a bit but not lower .but i have not tested this yet ,my board will not accept my clock settings for the memory clock.

Or even easier go get a good fan heat sink thermalright got some heat sinks that rock I am using a 120/ultra it comes set up with one fan on top but you can put another on the bottom will little imagination just be sure both fans are flowing the same way
I had the 9850 at 3.7 load temps were only 53 but i couldn't keep it stable enough to do tests it got half way trough prime . But I know now I do have board issues things disappear in my bios and stuff . if i had control of my NB voltage I might of made it through it I would love to put that screen shot up here.
Edited by ZigZagFreeBurning - 6/16/08 at 11:35am
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OK does anyone else have the giga byte DQ6
this board gave me problems from day one actually this is my second board. The first one was defective .It would not accept any of there bios updates. So I sent it back on RMA they sent me a brand new one with the update already on it .Worked Great for a week then it shut down and gave a checksum error then reverted back to the F2 bios. Now that sucked because the F2 bios didn't support the 9850 so I had to turn around take the 9850 out and put in a 3500+ which i had to buy. I then reloaded bios ,did a bios stepping I went from there first F1 all they way to the F5. Work good for a week or so and then another check some error and I had do it all over again. Did this like 4 times so far.
Got in contact with GigaByte and told them my problem through email and all I got backs was, It should accept update for the 9850 and the f5 does support it and that was it . Nothing about the board at all .
Now I've notice bios is messed up nb voltage or memory controler voltage is in - not + so when I brang it up to match the vcor voltage I didn't go up it down in voltage. Never notice at first so I rebooted . Man what a time I had to get this board to wake back up.
Got it awake booted to post fine from there guess what another checksum error . At that time i didn't need that to happen but apart came the CPU and the 3500 goes back on.

I get it up and updated then I get back into post set defaults rebooted and i got a checksum error again .Not good because the 3500 was on the socket and man did i ever sweat then. I didn't know what to do because I didn't want to wait another 3 weeks for RMA so I put in the 9850 and hoping it would work and it did. So went into window to update bios again rebooted checksum error. I screamed so load and was letting out some F's and a knock on there door, it was the cops . My neighbors phone a noise complaint on me. while talking to the cops I left computer on and at the checksum error ruining .
came back it was loading windows . Well that made me shake my head restarted windows and it went to q-flash and told me i just loaded the F5 update and rebooted . Still running it but not sure what went on there. I am really think of throwing aways these board nothing but bad luck.

Most people have had trouble with all the major names in mothers boards with the 790fx.

So I heard the gigabyte DS5 broke records which they are boosting on there web site a 3d mark score 0f 20000. I should ask them to send one of them it is a cheaper board and when it need an update they put it there in a day or 2.
I am still waiting for the bios update to be fixed for this one .I wounder if I can use the DS5 bios I would doubt that it would just more trouble.
Edited by ZigZagFreeBurning - 6/16/08 at 8:54am
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I have notice that the resellers caught on not to many carey it any more say out of stock and not to be restocked
Gigabyte won't admit there is a real bad problem with DQ6
so now saving up my money to get a another but that was a waste of 300$ canadian on board that was suppose one of the top dogs and I can't keep it running no more then a week at a time.

I also think most of issues with over clocking 9850 had to do with this board.

Also Rumors:

what I heard from a few people that the 9850 is just a 9600 revamped with different timimgs and clock bust.
Fact when you boot to post watch when it says what cpu u got ,it gives you ID pacth # and i been around to know that it is there to change the name of the cpu. I check batch on cpu it is a factuary 9850.

That would explain the reason for low bus setings and off the wall timings .I just hope amd didn't do that .

That is hear say dosen't matter now anyways I bought one whith a crappy boad and here I had high hopes for AMD i was getting close to haveing this baby performing revamped 9600 or not
but smart thing I have to do is wait for bios or save up and get a better board one that will do what they say it will do Before I try anything else on the over clocking scale but this is my thread and I still be here no matter what.
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reading through most of this i was kinda lost then i started going though and re reading. It sounds pretty good. when over clocking I have found stable was 200x14. gave me 2.8 but everytime in everest it would show a odd number 201.14 equaled 2813.......if you do the math it should be 2814. I am thinking your right in that the cpu likes odd numbers. I will try what you have stated above to see if it works. although I think we may uncover the key to OCing this chip in this thread.
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I'm an idiot. a couple days ago I set my CPU temp +10 in the bois to keep my fans on 100%. What I had been looking at before was the individual core temps. That TMPIN0 doesn't get over 46 even OCing normally, though my cores do get up there.

I was just running prime 95 for 8 min at hit 60C on the cores settings at 14.5x208, because I got distracted by my dragon, and wasn't watching temps like I always do. Not good.

I'm going to go back to 15x200 and test again, I remember the cores were around 54C before.
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I will bet my life on it . That is how sure I am. i did the math for every possible solution all the way up multiplier 16.5 and bus up 230 which I don't think you will get that high on 1066 Ram but I seen in here they are getting close with it at 800.
I have tried all the solutions as far as I could go and did bench marks some posted here but I have found that odd numbers did perform better then even. I also found while bench mark and watching cupz and all the frequencies that there was a sequence to it and it seem to look like stepping. So I went a little father with it I watched it with even and odd numbers. when clocked at high speeds with odd numbers I have seen them more tighter together and every third time the numbers were even but ever second time they were odd
Odd numbers were closer to together and even where father apart.
then clocking with high speeds with even numbers I found that even numbers where closer together and odd numbers were father apart but every third cycle or so odd numbers would be close to together and so would even numbers and at that point at when I went to take a screen shot my computer froze. not bad it would recover but it was like slowed down. It only did this clocking with even numbers never once with odd numbers I have seen this they were always in perfect sequence . the more load closer they got less load the farther a way with the odd numbers and the even ones did the opposite like to make room for them.
Evens numbers when doing this seem to be not as close and close odd numbers were jumping sporadicly there wasn't really a sequence . clocking with even numbers again I also 0 come more often then with odd and when that happen ever thing see to slow down. and with odd numbers clock I seen the 1 come up more often and when it that the numbers would speed up .

Yes I have better thing I just so happen to stubble on that by mistake bored watching CPUz while test for stability
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I did more math in the last 4 or 5 then My whole time going through school
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