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Well, at this point, I'm willing to try everything, so I'll give it a try. If I may ask, though, is it really worth it to have to sacrifice RAM timings for additional processor gain? I suppose that depends on how much the gain is, though.

Also, I've been reading up on the VDROOP pencil mods. Is there any chance this could help improve stability, or is that more for when you're dealing with higher VCore settings?

Edit: Good call on loosening the RAM timings. I brought my FSB up to 350, VCore to 1.45, and VFSB to 1.5. This is the first time ORTHOS has lasted longer than 10 mins since having my FSB at 320. Let's see how far I can ride this.
Edited by RShannonCA - 6/15/08 at 10:22am
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hi
what you do is loosen the ramtimings, reach a speed you are pleased with, and then try to tighten the ram again, little by little.
the sped you gain with higher cpu speed, is much more than you will loose by loosening the timings.
the timings gives you the last little speedgain.
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Well, it seems that loosening my timings only allowed me to make that one additional increase. I cannot even bring it up an additional 8 MHz and keep it stable. Mind you, I am happy to at least break the 3GHz mark, but I am somewhat aiming/hoping to at least get to 3.33 GHz. Should I loosen my RAM even further, to 7-7-7-21, to see if I can get any further, or is that going too far? How loose should one go with their RAM before enough is enough?
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What is your VCore right now (in Windows - accounts for Vdroop)? Also, what are your FSB, NB, & RAM overvolts?
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Actually, I spoke too soon reporting the last increase as stable. I was just testing it for an extended period of time, and it locked up at 38 minutes, so now I've had to revert back to my 320MHz settings.

Chemicalfan, my current settings are:

2.88GHz
Multiplier - 9x
FSB - 320Mhz
RAM - Unlinked, 800 MHz, 5-5-5-15
VCore - 1.25
VFSB - 1.2
VRAM - 2.1
SPP (Northbridge) - Auto (1.2 or 1.4 I believe)

I have found reports that suggest that up to 1.45 is safe for the VCore (and some people use 1.5v+), Corsair specifies 2.1v as safe for the RAM, and I'm unsure about the Northbridge (so far I haven't been attempting to alter the Northbridge).

Could the fact that my E6600 is an engineering sample be detrimental to my OC efforts?

Update: I have managed a slight stable increase using the same settings which I used with my last hardware configuration.

3.0 GHz
Multiplier - 8x
FSB - 375Mhz
RAM - Unlinked, 800 MHz, 5-5-5-15
VCore - 1.45
VFSB - 1.4

It's quite frustrating to have spent about $150 worth in upgrades (technically its $250, but I managed to return the Corsair PC 6400 RAM I had just bought for the Corsair PC8500 w/fan combo) to not get any increase in performance, only lower temps. I thought the temps were what were holding me back from achieving more (I was hitting 63-68 degree's with my old heatsink), but now I'm pretty sure it's not. I've just got some limitation on the hardware, or something.
Edited by RShannonCA - 6/15/08 at 1:34pm
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Thought I'd give an update. Finally getting somewhere. Before I was leaving the SPP voltage as auto, because I really didn't understand what it was for. I now know it's the northbridge voltage. I had set that to 1.5v, and have been able to break 3GHz stable. I had a stable 3.33GHz with the following settings

multiplier at 9
FSB - 370
Vcore 1.375
VFSB- 1.5
VRAM - 2.1
SPP - 1.5

Temps were low, 45 idle, and I can't remember on load, somewhere between 50-55.

I couldn't get anything stable higher than that with the multiplier at 9, but dropping it down to 8 I've gotten a stable 3.4 GHz with

Multiplier - 9
FSB - 425
VCore 1.425
VFSB- 1.5
VRAM - 2.1
SPP - 1.5

Temps are a little higher, 60-69 on 100% load. Might just see how far I can take it on the 8x multi, but I think it's safe to say my temps will only go up from here, so would it be best to dial it back to the 3.33 GHz setting just to have things run a bit cooler, or should I leave it at 3.4GHz?
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Those temps are too high for an E6600, you either need better cooling, or less volts (and the lower FSB that will probably come with it )
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Yeah, I figured I'd dial the settings back to my 3.33GHz settings for less wear and tear. That, and my 3.4 GHz settings locked up at around the 3-4 hour mark when I left it on overnight. When it locks up after going for that long, is it possible it's due to VDROOP, and therefore would the VDROOP pencil mod potentially keep it stable? I'm just asking for the sake of knowing, I don't know if I would bother at this point, especially since I'm not keeping that setting.

However, strangely enough, this morning when I saw that the 3.4GHz settings locked up, I loaded up my 3.33GHz settings, and Windows locked up within 10 seconds of running Prime95. I had to go back, and increase the VCore to 1.4 (which, sadly has increased the temps slightly).

Yesterday I had run those very same 3.33GHz settings on ORTHOS for well over 1 hour (I know, that's not an indication of something being perfectly stable, which is why I was going to run it all day today while I'm at work). Why would it have locked up immediately today? That seemed really odd to me.
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Try it again with the old voltage, it's possible Windows just freaked out coz something changed. Mine displays a dialog on bootup after every clock change, asking if it's ok *lol*
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post #20 of 53
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Well, when I came home today, I found the computer locked up (after only around 30 mins of running too :/). Went ahead with the VDROOP pencil mod, and I'm getting no VCore fluctuation. I tried testing at 3.3 GHz with 1.365v, but it locked up, so I bumped it up to 1.425 and it's staying, but the temps are a lil high... hopefully this will increase my general stability, though.
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