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Update: Came home, and she's still going! Looks like I've officially reached stability at 3.45 GHz! Temps are 66-67, so a little high. Going to see what I can do about that right now.

Edit: Oh, one thing I realized I did differently today was I simply did the small FFT's test, instead of the Blend test. I figured the small FFT's would stress only the CPU, and be the better test for my current OC efforts. Do you think this really matters?

Aha! Small FFTs will increase your temps by about 2-3C over blend as it is purely stressing the CPU...let both run for about 10 mins and see what I be talking about...that's why your temps might be a bit higher.

Also, I just removed the RAM fans, and my temps are going between 64-65, so there was some temp gain in removing them... but not quite as much as I was hoping. Every bit counts, though. Probably make a bigger difference when I can get a better air tunnel effect going.

Yup, you will be surprised what a good exhaust fan can do...I was. Get's all those nasty heat gremlins out of your case that much faster. How many fans do you have in the front and where (top/bottom)?
Also, pull out your camera tonight and take a picture of your innards, front of case and back of case...let's see what we gots to work with. Good airflow for me made a -10C diff on the cpu/gpu, etc (based on several large & small tweaks over the last year).

Once stable, the mission should be to heat before moving onto ram and gpu tweakage.
Edited by Qbert - 6/18/08 at 3:44pm
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K, think I can manage to take a few pics. I only have one generic fan in the front, at the bottom. There's 2 HDD's right behind it, and there really isn't any ventilation holes in the front for it to be effective. For the time being, I have been keeping the side of my case off, a) because it doesn't fit properly with the V2 in place, and b) to allow circulation since my case obviously doesn't allow for it in it's current state. I was actually looking at the cases available from my preferred computer store today while I was picking up the OCZ Freeze (which I forgot to mention I picked up). Since I commute back and forth to work on my bike, figured now might not be the best time to pick up a new case, lol. This weekend, though.

Also, yeah, I've been running the blend test for the past while, and it's mostly hanging around 56-57 at this point. It was up to 63-64 at first (probably cuz that's there it had been all day and it took a little bit to cool down), but now it's lower.

BTW, how do you determine the ambient temp? Like with a thermostat in your home, or is there some program that somehow determines that using some other sensor in the computer? I don't have a thermostat in my home for the time being.
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K, think I can manage to take a few pics. I only have one generic fan in the front, at the bottom. There's 2 HDD's right behind it, and there really isn't any ventilation holes in the front for it to be effective. For the time being, I have been keeping the side of my case off, a) because it doesn't fit properly with the V2 in place, and b) to allow circulation since my case obviously doesn't allow for it in it's current state. I was actually looking at the cases available from my preferred computer store today while I was picking up the OCZ Freeze (which I forgot to mention I picked up). Since I commute back and forth to work on my bike, figured now might not be the best time to pick up a new case, lol. This weekend, though.

Based on that, I think a new case will do you good...but pics if you can, still am curious. My temps actually go up when I remove my side panel by 2C...good fans/negative air pressure & wind tunnelage does work!

Also, yeah, I've been running the blend test for the past while, and it's mostly hanging around 56-57 at this point. It was up to 63-64 at first (probably cuz that's there it had been all day and it took a little bit to cool down), but now it's lower.

Oh yeah, I forgot on my prev post, blend goes from ram testing to cpu testing and back. If you have any temp monitoring program that has a chart, you will see this. It cycles about every 6 or so minutes...temp goes up (cpu test)...temp goes down (ram test)....repeat and add eggs when cpu comes to a boil.

BTW, how do you determine the ambient temp? Like with a thermostat in your home, or is there some program that somehow determines that using some other sensor in the computer? I don't have a thermostat in my home for the time being.

I have a hand held laser thermometer (how cool am I...not). It's pretty good but sometimes hard to get specific temps...like in tight places/around corners. As for software, what do you have? I highly suggest:
- Speefan for fan control/temp/volt monitoring (must have)
- HWmonitor for same to confirm the readings you are getting are good...also gives gpu temps, volts, etc. (must have)
- cpu-z...you have (nice to have)
- Orthos...you have (must have)
- RivaTuner for gpu OCing/profiles, fan control, temps (must have)
- SuperPi for ram benchies (must have) and 3DMark06 or Vantage for gpu/cpu benchies (must have)
- ccleaner to keep your machin lean and mean (must have)
- AusLogistics defragger...cause Vista's sucks royal donkeys (very nice to have)
- Everest for system info/more benchies (nice to have)
Somewhat optional/getting pretty repetitive to have:
- Coretemp
- SiSoftware Sandra for same as above
- ATItool...maybe if you want to check for artifacts on your gpu OC...but I had problems with it in Vista (or at least I think it caused probs) so no longer use.
Ok, off to hack up some bad guys!
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Also check out OCCT - it brings together functions of other programs and puts them in one convienient package. You can look at temps and voltage, and do a stress test, and it gives you a pretty graph of the lot! It's the only thing (bar CPU-Z) I use now
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Time for today's update. Not quite as great news, a little bit of "2 steps forward, 1 step back" syndrome, but nothing major.

I went ahead and lapped the CPU and V2 (and a little bit off my thumb! ). That definitely was not fun at all. The CPU itself took probably between 2-3 hours. I wasn't going to do the V2 at first, but after putting in all that effort on the CPU, there was no way in hell I was going to allow the V2 to cause there to be a gap between it's surface and the CPU's. Thankfully the V2 only took 20-30 mins to get flat. I couldn't get a mirror finish (using 220, 600, and then 1200 was the highest grit I could find), or it *perfectly* flat across the entire CPU surface, as the corners were rounded downwards. It was flat across like 90-95% of the surface, and I was happy to leave it at that.

I applied some of the OCZ freeze, and I gotta say, I'm not a fan of it's viscosity. Applying a thin, even coat across the top of the CPU actually proved to be a challenge... but then again, maybe I'm just a little too anal. It did fill what was left of the valleys on the V2 quite easily, and in a manner where I was able to get it in only the valleys (which was my intention since I put the main coat on the CPU).

In any event, I did notice a temp difference, and that's what counts. When I turned on the PC (using the exact same settings as throughout the day), I nearly jumped out of my seat when I saw 43 degree idles, and then 47-48 degree loads! Unfortunately temps did not stay that low. It eventually climbed and fluctuated anywhere between 50-60 degrees (can't remember if I saw it climb over 60, but it may have gone to 62).

One thing that kinda sucked was I replaced the front intake fan with the Scythe S-Flex fan. I tried plugging it in using the fan header to molex connector, and when I turned it on, it didn't work. I then tried plugging it in directly to a fan header, and it still didn't turn on. However, that is good news in a sense, since it'll give me a reason to return it, and get the S-Flex F or Slipstream (I can see they have them in stock on their website), or any other fan(s) I want to match my new case (although I do not see any particularly good choices other than those 2).

Now, on to the not so great news. I decided to attempt the blend test overnight, and Windows locked up after 4 and 1/2 hours. Since it passed the small FFT test, but not the blend test, could that possibly indicate that the CPU - RAM relationship caused it to lock up? I loosened my RAM timings to 6-6-6-18. I also bumped up the VCore 2 notches (to 1.39). I attempted to lower the FSB and SPP both down to 1.4v (I know, shouldn't try too many things at once like that), and Windows locked up within 10 seconds of ORTHOS, which was what I would always experience before when I left my SPP at auto. I think I'm going to have to leave that at 1.5. Anyways, I switched those both back to 1.5, and left it running the blend test today. Hopefully upping the VCore and/or loosening the RAM timings will cause it to stay stable.

As for the programs, thanks for the suggestions. I'll be obtaining many asap.
- Speefan - Don't have, but I read about it, and planned on setting it up when I intend on maximizing my airflow
- HWmonitor - Have
- cpu-z - have
- Orthos - have
- RivaTuner - don't have, but I am aware this is what's required to OC the GPU shaders. I heard that that is somewhat minute in terms of gain. True/untrue?
- SuperPi - Have but haven't tried it yet.
-3DMark06 or Vantage - Don't have (yet) but have been considering. In the meantime, do you think the Crysis benchmark tests are good enough?
- ccleaner - Don't have. Never heard of it. What exactly does this clean?
- AusLogistics defragger - Please tell me this runs much faster than the standard Win XP defragger! I seriously couldn't defrag my (500GB) HDD's before because I would leave it on for almost 10-15 hours, and it wouldn't even be at 20%. I can't leave my computer defragging for a week just to defrag 1 of my 3 HDD's . Fortunately I created a 10GB Windows and apps partition just for this purpose.
- Everest - I heard about this yesterday. Some people swear by it, so I might look into it.

Somewhat optional/getting pretty repetitive to have:
- Coretemp - Have
- SiSoftware Sandra - Also heard many recommendations on this.
- ATItool - Have, but I was getting a little confused using this program, so I switched to using nTune for the GPU OC.

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Also check out OCCT
-Sounds good, I'll definitely add that to my list as well.

Oh, and I tried to take pics, but my camera's batteries died as soon as I turned it on. Got them recharging, so I'll have some pics up tonight.
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Also check out OCCT - it brings together functions of other programs and puts them in one convienient package. You can look at temps and voltage, and do a stress test, and it gives you a pretty graph of the lot! It's the only thing (bar CPU-Z) I use now
Yup, I knew I had forgotten something.

The good: OCCT does all those things and takes less time than Orthos to assess stability.

The bad: It completely hogs your system when running and you cannot do anything until you stop it or it is done (on Orthos you can still do stuff in the background).
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Morning RShannonCA,

Couple of things…

1. Yeah, the OCZ viscosity got me the 1st time too…just gotta be patient. I use a diff method though on my HDT. I put a line across the bottom of a credit card and then spackle it onto the HDT spreading slowly from 1 side to the other. It may take a couple of passes but get it on there thicker than you would like. Then I remove the excess with rubbing alcohol/coffee filter (91% proof stuff, not the 70% proof) so just the cracks between the pipes are filled in. Next I re-apply a thin line on the HDT that will be vertical when placed onto the cpu to cover both cores. I have tried the spread method but liked this way better (there are some pics similar to how I do this on benchmarkreviews.com).

2. Be careful as the more you un-mount/remount the HDT the looser the clips could get making all your hard work null if it is not as snug as before.

3. Which header did you use on the mobo? The fan was new, right? Here is a handy dandy header diagram I reference from time to time (for the 680i but very similar to our LTs): http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t...FanHeaders.jpg

See if they have the S-Flex G too (just came out, higher cfm) or go for either the Slipstream 1600 or 1900 rpm version. You will probably want a fan controller if you go with the G or 1900 as they can be quite loud at full speed if you can’t control them via mobo or Speedfan. Also consider an Ultra Kaze 2000 or 3000 for your heatsink (the 2000 is currently my favorite fan, but it is a 120mm x38mm fan instead of x25mm).

4. As for “could that possibly indicate that the CPU - RAM relationship caused it to lock up?” Possibly, but not necessarily. You ran memtest86+ from boot right (not in Windows) and had no issues. I don’t think it is your ram but your cpu OC being a bit too high vs volts…so yes, raise the vCore and try again or back down the CPU FSB a bit but leave everything else as it was.

Now I’m gonna chastise you a bit so don’t take it the wrong way….slow down amigo! You are doing too many things at the same time/too fast….and you know that too….

“I loosened my RAM timings to 6-6-6-18. I also bumped up the VCore 2 notches (to 1.39). I attempted to lower the FSB and SPP both down to 1.4v (I know, shouldn't try too many things at once like that)” - correcto!

I don’t think you should be messing with the ram timings yet, even to loosen…strictly stay on the CPU as I don’t think it’s your memory causing the freezeups. I almost always only do one thing at a time, test, confirm it’s good and then change the next thing (i.e., increase FSB, check temps/confirm stability, if ok, increase FSB again, not stable, increase volts test…repeat). Yes, I know it takes a long time but it is the only way you can do process of elimination with issues. I also keep a log of what worked/did not work as a starting point since I have had to go back many a time when I pushed too far. In the long run, the slow approach will save you time because if not, you start spinning your wheels by doing the same things multiple times/with multiple variations and then don’t know what messed things up.

5. Rivatuner does much more than that, you can independently set memory, core & shader clocks as well as fan profiles based on temps and auto launch OC profiles for different games, etc. And true, the shader OC provides minimal gain, the core provides the most followed by memory….see my tests here: http://www.overclock.net/nvidia-driv...t-results.html

6. I don’t have Crysis so cannot comment there…I tend to get games for free or buy them 6-mos to 1 year after release, just can’t keep (freebies come from a bro in law that works pretty high up @ EA --- he sends me free stuff every quarter).

7. ccleaner (crap cleaner, cleans leftover junk and lite registry fixer…good for keeping your rig fast at startup,etc) and AusLogistics defragger (super fast, only takes minutes to defrag my drive but I do it every 2 weeks so it never gets too bad) can be found in the Downloads section right here on Overclock.net: http://www.overclock.net/downloads/ Spend some good time in there reviewing all the downloads, read comments and see what looks good for you (I spent an entire day in there).

8. I would not touch nTune with a 10-ft stick! If you have it, only use it for monitoring, nothing else! Read this and be wary…many have had issues:http://www.evga.com/forums/tm.asp?m=...55372;�

Now you got me writing novels too!!!

Oh, I've been meaning to ask you...how much of your 4gigs of ram shows up in XP 32? I get about 2.8 our of 4 due in part to 640mb on my gpu.
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I'll borrow your replying technique.

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Morning RShannonCA,

Couple of things…

1. Yeah, the OCZ viscosity got me the 1st time too…just gotta be patient. I use a diff method though on my HDT. I put a line across the bottom of a credit card and then spackle it onto the HDT spreading slowly from 1 side to the other. It may take a couple of passes but get it on there thicker than you would like. Then I remove the excess with rubbing alcohol/coffee filter (91% proof stuff, not the 70% proof) so just the cracks between the pipes are filled in. Next I re-apply a thin line on the HDT that will be vertical when placed onto the cpu to cover both cores. I have tried the spread method but liked this way better (there are some pics similar to how I do this on benchmarkreviews.com).

2. Be careful as the more you un-mount/remount the HDT the looser the clips could get making all your hard work null if it is not as snug as before.

Yeah, I was thinking that myself. I have no intention of removing it again anytime soon, but knowing the way I am, knowing I do not have the entire top of the CPU heatspreader perfectly flat at the corners may cause me some cold sweats at night, and I'll be at it again

3. Which header did you use on the mobo? The fan was new, right? Here is a handy dandy header diagram I reference from time to time (for the 680i but very similar to our LTs): http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t...FanHeaders.jpg

Lower right most header in that pic

See if they have the S-Flex G too (just came out, higher cfm) or go for either the Slipstream 1600 or 1900 rpm version. You will probably want a fan controller if you go with the G or 1900 as they can be quite loud at full speed if you can’t control them via mobo or Speedfan. Also consider an Ultra Kaze 2000 or 3000 for your heatsink (the 2000 is currently my favorite fan, but it is a 120mm x38mm fan instead of x25mm).

I'll check on the S-Flex G... I'm a little worried they might not even have the F, though, as their website only shows 1 in stock at the location I go to (and we all know how great these inventory systems can be). The Slipstream they have is only the 1200 RPM, so that's out. They have the Kaze 2000 & 3000 listed, but none in stock in any location. Thankfully, the store is in the "computer district" of my city and I have a few alternatives I can check out.

4. As for “could that possibly indicate that the CPU - RAM relationship caused it to lock up?” Possibly, but not necessarily. You ran memtest86+ from boot right (not in Windows) and had no issues. I don’t think it is your ram but your cpu OC being a bit too high vs volts…so yes, raise the vCore and try again or back down the CPU FSB a bit but leave everything else as it was.

Yes, I forgot to tell you that I did run Memtest86+ a 2nd time and allowed it to go through 2 consecutive passes. No errors.

Now I’m gonna chastise you a bit so don’t take it the wrong way….slow down amigo! You are doing too many things at the same time/too fast….and you know that too….

“I loosened my RAM timings to 6-6-6-18. I also bumped up the VCore 2 notches (to 1.39). I attempted to lower the FSB and SPP both down to 1.4v (I know, shouldn't try too many things at once like that)” - correcto!

I don’t think you should be messing with the ram timings yet, even to loosen…strictly stay on the CPU as I don’t think it’s your memory causing the freezeups. I almost always only do one thing at a time, test, confirm it’s good and then change the next thing (i.e., increase FSB, check temps/confirm stability, if ok, increase FSB again, not stable, increase volts test…repeat). Yes, I know it takes a long time but it is the only way you can do process of elimination with issues. I also keep a log of what worked/did not work as a starting point since I have had to go back many a time when I pushed too far. In the long run, the slow approach will save you time because if not, you start spinning your wheels by doing the same things multiple times/with multiple variations and then don’t know what messed things up.

Sounds good. I'll set my timings back. I realize I was getting a little hasty attemping the adjust the FSB and SPP Vs, and thankfully that backfired right away, so I was able to reverse them. But considering how close I am to finally achieving a nice stable base setting, I'll slow things down to just changing one parameter at a time now.

5. Rivatuner does much more than that, you can independently set memory, core & shader clocks as well as fan profiles based on temps and auto launch OC profiles for different games, etc. And true, the shader OC provides minimal gain, the core provides the most followed by memory….see my tests here: http://www.overclock.net/nvidia-driv...t-results.html

6. I don’t have Crysis so cannot comment there…I tend to get games for free or buy them 6-mos to 1 year after release, just can’t keep (freebies come from a bro in law that works pretty high up @ EA --- he sends me free stuff every quarter).

7. ccleaner (crap cleaner, cleans leftover junk and lite registry fixer…good for keeping your rig fast at startup,etc) and AusLogistics defragger (super fast, only takes minutes to defrag my drive but I do it every 2 weeks so it never gets too bad) can be found in the Downloads section right here on Overclock.net: http://www.overclock.net/downloads/ Spend some good time in there reviewing all the downloads, read comments and see what looks good for you (I spent an entire day in there).

8. I would not touch nTune with a 10-ft stick! If you have it, only use it for monitoring, nothing else! Read this and be wary…many have had issues:http://www.evga.com/forums/tm.asp?m=...55372;�

Damn, reading that thread was slightly discouraging. Going to have to get rid of that. I don't mind the uninstallation, but sucks having to clear the CMOS just to be safe.

Now you got me writing novels too!!!

Oh, I've been meaning to ask you...how much of your 4gigs of ram shows up in XP 32? I get about 2.8 our of 4 due in part to 640mb on my gpu.
Mine shows up as 2.75 GB. That's with the /3GB and I forget the other, but starts with /P** (*'s are the letters I cannot remember off the top of my head) commands added to my boot.ini. Adding those to commands didn't help one bit, though

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Came home, Windows lock up after about 1 hour. Boo.

Big question: Should I be disabling my Internet Security (and disconnecting my PC from the network) while I'm running these stress tests? I noticed in my Task Manager that every 5-10 seconds my anti-virus causes a 20% usage of my cpu. Could this be affecting my testing?

Edit: Took the time to remove nTune, get rid of all it's remaining registry entries with that CCleaner program you recommended, and cleared my CMOS. While I was waiting for the CMOS to clear, I pulled out my GPU and replaced the TIM inside. I also took the time to remove a wireless NIC I'm not making use of, and rearranged my PCI cards to make room for better airflow, and did my best at some cable management. I took some pics while I was at it. I'll upload them now and provde the linky's when they're ready.
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Came home, Windows lock up after about 1 hour. Boo.

Sorry to hear that bro! Post an updated with your latest BIOS settings like we did earlier this week.

Big question: Should I be disabling my Internet Security (and disconnecting my PC from the network) while I'm running these stress tests? I noticed in my Task Manager that every 5-10 seconds my anti-virus causes a 20% usage of my cpu. Could this be affecting my testing?

Edit: Took the time to remove nTune, get rid of all it's remaining registry entries with that CCleaner program you recommended, and cleared my CMOS. While I was waiting for the CMOS to clear, I pulled out my GPU and replaced the TIM inside. I also took the time to remove a wireless NIC I'm not making use of, and rearranged my PCI cards to make room for better airflow, and did my best at some cable management. I took some pics while I was at it. I'll upload them now and provde the linky's when they're ready.
Big Answer: I have never had to disable either of those when stressing...I run Avast and it has a very light footprint. Also, do you have Windows Updates to run automatically or manually? Set it to manual to make sureit is not installing drivers/updates in the background (cause it could install an older device driver/other over a newer one you did at some point!). 20% usage is huge by the way for security...I hope you dont have any Norton/Symantic products installed...in my opinion they suck and hog resources. Also, if you go into Task Manager, how many services are running once fully booted?

Edit response: You have been busy! I'm not a registry guru but be very careful when removing stuff as that can cause probs down the line/massive headaches! Hopefully you have restore points just in case. Everything else you did sounds good. How much mbs did ccleaner remove? I'll look for the pics tonight when I get back online. What part of Canada/timezone are you in? I'm in SoCal, PST..currently 5pm.
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