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Just wondering whats the max safe cpu vtt for a 65nm quad im having alot of issues with my pc powering off so starting to up the cpu vtt see if that helps. Vcore dont help no matter how much i push to it.
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Running 1.5 seems to help me stay stable so far 70mins longest it usualy makes it. So is 1.5 safe for long term ?
Edited by Bal3Wolf - 6/14/08 at 4:27pm
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Running 1.5 seems to help me stay stable so far 70mins longest it usualy makes it. So is 1.5 safe for long term ?
No, I don't think 1.5 is safe... I'll see if I can find the original source(link) but if I recall correctly I believe the folks over @ anandtech wasted a qx9650 due to high VTT(it was either 1.5 or 1.55). I'll edit this post if I find I can find it.

NVM just found it!

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High VTT sends our best QX9650 to an early grave...

We have been using this particular QX960 processor for an upcoming X48 comparison article and testing was going quite well (not blaming a particular board somehow seems appropriate). We thought we had made it past that mystical, magical, and more importantly, stable mark of 450FSB with a Quad Core. However, in order to get to that point on this particular board, we (Editor- Raja in case the police get involved) made the mistake of using a very high VTT termination voltage of 1.51V (VTT is used to terminate data lines between the MCH and CPU).

This particular CPU was a great example of a QX9650 hitting 4GHz stable at a mere 1.29V on most motherboards (tears are flowing in the beer tonight). We know users are running VTT voltages even higher than ours on 45nm processors and probably have not had a problem yet. We will run high VTT voltages in short bursts to test the limits of the board and CPU. However, this is the first time we have tried anything over 1.45V on a 24+-hour basis to test application stability.

Let this be a warning – do not go over 1.4V maximum for 24/7 use! We are certain that the high VTT voltage and extended testing was the cause of death, as we made no other major or obvious changes within the BIOS that could have instigated a failure. Obviously, we tried to boot the processor in a number of other motherboards without success before we decided to post our results up.

This is our first 45nm Quad core processor we managed to kill outright during testing. We hope it is the last one too. The problem is that we also have a Q9300 that is on life support after experiencing a 36-hour run at 435FSB with VTT set to 1.45V. While our experiences might not represent results elsewhere, we thought our advice to just, “Say no to high VTT” is worth a quick post. We have had enough VTT/GTL adjusting in the last year to last us a lifetime – just give us Nehalem quickly, please.
-SOURCE-

http://www.intel.com/design/processo...hts/318726.htm

http://download.intel.com/design/pro...hts/318726.pdf

On page 19, Table 2-2 says max FSB termination voltage(VTT) = 1.45V(1.55V for a 65nm Q)

I know 45nm QX9650 ≠ 65nm Q6600... But IMHO it's always better to err on the side of caution.
Edited by MasterKromm - 6/14/08 at 5:05pm
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Im testing 1.44 vtt and 1.45 nb right now see if it runs stable if i have to i will use 1.50 vtt and 1.50 nb.
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65nm is fine with 1.5v, 65nm is much tougher than 45nm is. This is like running 1.48v on 65nm which will be just fine, where as the 45nm is going to struggle.
     
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Just out of curiosity, what FSB are gunning for that requires so much VTT?

I can run my Q6700 @ 450 x8/x9 with 1.22 VTT, are you going for mad crazy FSB? That's partly why I linked the anandtech blog, everything I've seen suggests that 65nm quads require significantly less VTT to run stable than 45nm Quads.
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Not alot even 450x8 or 400x9 but once i use more then 1.30 or somtimes under it i get power offs seems running 1.50 vtt fixes that problem.
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