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Mmm. Nope, I think it's the cooler. Reason being that when I had the case door off and a 30cm deskfan (Bionaire, they know stuff about deskfans ) blowing straight past/over the CPU cooler it was at 53C idle. Having changed to the stock cooler it's now at 37C with the side door off and the deskfan. Perhaps it's the mounting clip, perhaps it's the surface of the cooler but either way somethin is borked. No way that much air can move past even a passive heatsink and keep temps that high

What is this PWM of which you speak? Sounds interesting, although I'm starting to think I can make do without CnQ with the temps I'm getting now. Might well go and disable it

So - something other than a Zalman 9700, preferably 3 pin connector and some more info on PWM would be ace ^^
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What is this PWM of which you speak? Sounds interesting, although I'm starting to think I can make do without CnQ with the temps I'm getting now. Might well go and disable it

So - something other than a Zalman 9700, preferably 3 pin connector and some more info on PWM would be ace ^^
SupahSpankeh, here is more info about PWM: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulse-width_modulation. They are the physical mosfets surrounding the cpu socket.
Are you wanting to purchase a new cooler? Why not save a little bit of money and try lapping it instead. What speed was the fan running at on your Zalman 9700? Did you adjust it to see if any changes were made?

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Hmm. How do I turn that (admittedly interesting) article about PWM into something that'll reduce idle power consumption without nuking performance? I don't get it. Then again, there's a lot I don't get

Quite happy to buy a new cooler - got a few quid lying around and I've heard that this'n http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=HS-039-TR is pretty hawt.
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Hmm. How do I turn that (admittedly interesting) article about PWM into something that'll reduce idle power consumption without nuking performance? I don't get it. Then again, there's a lot I don't get

Quite happy to buy a new cooler - got a few quid lying around and I've heard that this'n http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=HS-039-TR is pretty hawt.
SupahSpankeh, the PWM actually controls the power management on your motherboard so it shouldn't be modified in any way. If cooling is your issue then I would suggest making a custom mounted cooler in your case that would provide better adequate cooling on your PWM. The PWM can actually exceed 80C so there is nothing really to be concerned about. On my DFI nForce 4 board, I have heatsinks that are mounted on top of the PWM. This helps dissipate the heat quicker.
The Thermalright Ultra 120 is one awesome cooler. I have heard nothing but good things about this cooler. I've been running thermalright products since Day 1 and haven't looked back. Here are a few reviews that I hope are helpful:
http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=268
http://www.silentpcreview.com/article646-page1.html

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Hmm. Ordered a TRUE and a fan. Hope I don't have to lap the darned thing.

Anyway, that'll leave me with a TRUE CPU cooler w/ Noctua NF-S12 on the CPU sink and another Noctuna on the chassis back fan slot. If that don't cool it, there's something seriously wrong.

I shall return in a few days with tales of woe and distress no doubt

Just hope I've got the 160mm clearance on the side door. It's a TT armour so shouldn't be a problem.
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Anyway, that'll leave me with a TRUE CPU cooler w/ Noctua NF-S12 on the CPU sink and another Noctuna on the chassis back fan slot. If that don't cool it, there's something seriously wrong
SupahSpankeh, just remember the NF-S12 are silent slow running 120mm fans. I believe the advertised CFM is around 35 which isn't a whole lot. Perhaps a fan controller may be of some use in the future for faster speeds.

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http://www.cclonline.com/product-inf...d=0&tid=nf-p12

Advertised as 54.5 CFM.

I linked the wrong one
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http://www.cclonline.com/product-inf...d=0&tid=nf-p12

Advertised as 54.5 CFM.

I linked the wrong one
SupahSpankeh, ok that makes me feel a little bit more comfortable

I have a NF-S12 in my case and it's nice but doesn't nearly push the same amount of air as a P12.

Good choice

EDIT: Wow looks like it has more fins then a S12! Probably explains for the higher CFM.
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AH! - lovely. Your heatsink is getting Hot now - and as you quite accuratly concluded - its dissipating the heat .

I have really horrible internet here @ work - I have to use a LOAD of tweaks and a few proxies to even get OCN's cookies to work - so I cant view a pic of your HSF zalman.

But I would suggest you pay some attention to the clips.
Many times I have to BEND my clips - a bit more.. intensly (for lack of a better word), or proned for tension (after installation, if I'm making sense) in order to get better pressure unto the chip. - that has often worked for me.

But I would otherwise agree wholeheartedly with the other members in saying that you need to get that REAR exhaust fan back up! - it will help you no doubt; hot air rises, and seeing that you have intake at front - its logic to put the exhaust at back.

The EXHAUST of a case is really the most important factor in cooling! In fact - PC cooling can function superbly with ONLY EXHUAST. - Good exhaust.

Because no case can (or has at least ) formed a COMPLETE vaccuum.
So - if you get my drift - a STRONG exhaust will always lead or form an intake.

YOU INSTALLING an intake- is really just a medium to DECIDE / DIRECT where the incoming airflow will ... flow lol.
anywho - you get an exhaust - and couple it with that case window fan (which I trust is blowing UNTO the HSF) and you should be good ^_^

Tell us how it goes.


Edit: oh! about that PWN controller. Its a good Idea really.
I dont know if the guys were reffering to a PWN controller that you could build yourself (lots of how to-s and simple circuits out there), but just so you know - a lot of MOBO's out there come with PWN controllers - typically under the CPU power pinout.
The Bios would have controlls for that - but sometimes their "kick-in" ranges as I call them arent.. adeuquate enough lol.

Speedfan (if configured properly) is great at overriding the ranges.
You can get the fan to spin at X speed when it touches 40c - and at full blast for eg - when it reaches 50c - whatever works best (we are after all aiming for power conservation ;]).

I doubt this is for a server - so underclocking isnt an option I guess lol.
but cool and quiet!? - we O'cers hate it! lol. But truthfully speaking - its a great feature if you ARENT oclocking - which I bet you will want to do! :]

-Grim
Edited by Grim - 6/17/08 at 2:54pm
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post #30 of 52
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Ugh, it lost me previous post.

I'm still getting clock interrupts - seemingly only in Age of Conan.

0x00000101

0x0000000000000031
0x0000000000000000
0xFFFFFA6001763180
0x0000000000000002

Any ideas? Temperatures are perfect and I'm getting a ludicrous exhaust 120mm fan with the new GPU (4870 wootles), but I'm starting to think it wasn't temps.

Nice and icey cool in there now though, thanks for the advice
Edited by SupahSpankeh - 6/18/08 at 6:56am
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