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I'm planning on (finaly) buying a new rig! It's going to contain a GTX 280 or an 4870 ATI graphix card, and i need some advise on picking the right stuff. I'm not planning to spend a great deal of money on it, since i also want to go for the nehalem processor when it gets released! this is my current plan, using the case from my current rig:


The advise i need is mostly on the mobo, i've already decided to go for that processor since i don't think i'll really need a quad for the time being... Is that gigabyte mobo a good OCer? Or should i look for another mobo or another chipset? If so what do you recommend, what brand and what chipset?
I'm just quite worried that the CPU might be a bottleneck to the GPU if i buy it, or that i can't OC it far enouf to get rid of the bottleneck.

Then i'm also planning on getting another 200mm fan for my antec 900 and mod the side of the case to fit one, placing it on the outside of the window (with a fan guard) to make sure the TRUE 120 still fits in. Any advise on how to do that?
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Howdy,
There are some major stuff you need to change. Some information I need is your budget in dollars if you can.
If you gonna have the new graphic cards, you need SLI compatible mobo. For your ram, you have good choice of the brand but 800mhz is too small. Get at least 4GB of 1000Mhz. For your PSU, your horsepower is good but your brand can be better. Go for Corsair PSU. With your Heatsink, Core duo is just a waste. Get a quad core like Q6600-6700 or Q9450. Make sure you buy good fan and thermal compound for your heatsink.

Edit: you gonna get the best GPU, why not a tanky CPU?
    
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Howdy,
There are some major stuff you need to change. Some information I need is your budget in dollars if you can.
If you gonna have the new graphic cards, you need SLI compatible mobo. For your ram, you have good choice of the brand but 800mhz is too small. Get at least 4GB of 1000Mhz. For your PSU, your horsepower is good but your brand can be better. Go for Corsair PSU. With your Heatsink, Core duo is just a waste. Get a quad core like Q6600-6700 or Q9450. Make sure you buy good fan and thermal compound for your heatsink.

Edit: you gonna get the best GPU, why not a tanky CPU?

thank you for not reading the original post.




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Alright Elightos, how close are you to your budget? Your RAM could use a potential upgrade, and your motherboard should be fine unless you want to spend the $$. That Antec PSU does a terrific job, I've used a couple in the past!
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Howdy,
There are some major stuff you need to change. Some information I need is your budget in dollars if you can.
If you gonna have the new graphic cards, you need SLI compatible mobo. For your ram, you have good choice of the brand but 800mhz is too small. Get at least 4GB of 1000Mhz. For your PSU, your horsepower is good but your brand can be better. Go for Corsair PSU. With your Heatsink, Core duo is just a waste. Get a quad core like Q6600-6700 or Q9450. Make sure you buy good fan and thermal compound for your heatsink.
I don't think he needs an SLI mobo unless he is planning to SLI now or in the future. If he's just going to use one card, SLI doesn't seem necessary.

From my last posted thread I learned if he is just going to game, the duo is the better choice (yeah yeah, he hasn't stated what he's doing with it, I know). If he's planning to get Nehalem when they are here, why pay the extra? I plan to use the TRUE on the E8400 for better OC until I watercool.
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Howdy,
There are some major stuff you need to change. Some information I need is your budget in dollars if you can.
If you gonna have the new graphic cards, you need SLI compatible mobo. For your ram, you have good choice of the brand but 800mhz is too small. Get at least 4GB of 1000Mhz. For your PSU, your horsepower is good but your brand can be better. Go for Corsair PSU. With your Heatsink, Core duo is just a waste. Get a quad core like Q6600-6700 or Q9450. Make sure you buy good fan and thermal compound for your heatsink.

Edit: you gonna get the best GPU, why not a tanky CPU?
budget in dollars... would be max 1 841.04 U.S. dollars (1200 euro). Why would i need to get an SLI board? I'm not planning on doing SLI... Not untill i get a new nehalem processor atleast! (aka different mobo aswell).

I don't want to spend all the money i got now on a big fat quadcore, i would rather take a verry good dual core (i am indeed a gamer, no coding etc for me yet) and save 150 euro or so!

@tindolos, thanks for reading my post well . Do you really think 800 mhz is under performing? should i go for some 1066 then? I do preffer g.skill becaus of their price vs performance. I've alway's heard they're great OCers and great performers!

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I don't think he needs an SLI mobo unless he is
From my last posted thread I learned if he is just going to game, the duo is the better choice (yeah yeah, he hasn't stated what he's doing with it, I know). If he's planning to get Nehalem when they are here, why pay the extra? I plan to use the TRUE on the E8400 for better OC until I watercool.
aye, my exact plan, well apart from the WC then!
I just want to make sure i don't have any bottlenecks in my system (like the ram as stated) and i want to make sure i can have some fun tweaking it to the best performance i can!
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I don't think he needs an SLI mobo unless he is planning to SLI now or in the future. If he's just going to use one card, SLI doesn't seem necessary.
This is true. He never stated that he wanted to SLI nor did he state any intentions in the future. This being said, his motherboard should be fine.


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From my last posted thread I learned if he is just going to game, the duo is the better choice (yeah yeah, he hasn't stated what he's doing with it, I know). If he's planning to get Nehalem when they are here, why pay the extra? I plan to use the TRUE on the E8400 for better OC until I watercool.
Exactly


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budget in dollars... would be max 1 841.04 U.S. dollars (1200 euro). Why would i need to get an SLI board? I'm not planning on doing SLI... Not untill i get a new nehalem processor atleast! (aka different mobo aswell).

I don't want to spend all the money i got now on a big fat quadcore, i would rather take a verry good dual core (i am indeed a gamer, no coding etc for me yet) and save 150 euro or so!

@tindolos, thanks for reading my post well . Do you really think 800 mhz is under performing? should i go for some 1066 then? I do preffer g.skill becaus of their price vs performance. I've alway's heard they're great OCers and great performers!


aye, my exact plan, well apart from the WC then!
I just want to make sure i don't have any bottlenecks in my system (like the ram as stated) and i want to make sure i can have some fun tweaking it to the best performance i can!
Pesonally, I think that RAM will be fine. I am however fond of this G.Skill ram. If you can find it on the proper web site, I would recommend 4 of these sticks, unless you plan to upgrade to 8GB in the future. Correct me if I'm wrong but that should be cheaper as well.
Edited by tindolos - 6/15/08 at 1:41pm
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budget in dollars... would be max 1 841.04 U.S. dollars (1200 euro). Why would i need to get an SLI board? I'm not planning on doing SLI... Not untill i get a new nehalem processor atleast! (aka different mobo aswell).

I don't want to spend all the money i got now on a big fat quadcore, i would rather take a verry good dual core (i am indeed a gamer, no coding etc for me yet) and save 150 euro or so!

@tindolos, thanks for reading my post well . Do you really think 800 mhz is under performing? should i go for some 1066 then? I do preffer g.skill becaus of their price vs performance. I've alway's heard they're great OCers and great performers!


aye, my exact plan, well apart from the WC then!
I just want to make sure i don't have any bottlenecks in my system (like the ram as stated) and i want to make sure i can have some fun tweaking it to the best performance i can!
Well it depends, all of the other posts were saying to save money of the short term. Tindolos was pretty much saying 70% what I have posted. You really don't need the best technology in your sig, but buy 8800 after new ones come out. I think you really don't want to switch everything soon, so buying a really cool mobo isn't a bad plan.

Edit: I'm trying to help not to offend anyone
I think DFI MOBOs aren't in Europe, is it correct?
Edited by legendor - 6/15/08 at 1:53pm
    
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would that ram really be better? It is the same speed and has lower latency's :/. Wouldn't it benefit to get bigger sized modules @ higher speeds/latency's?
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would that ram really be better? It is the same speed and has lower latency's :/. Wouldn't it benefit to get bigger sized modules @ higher speeds/latency's?
I like it because it is reliable, fast, and cheaper.
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hmm... i'll see if i can find any even faster ram for about the same price, some higher frequency's maybe!
edit: ok what would actually be better, 1000 mhz cas 5 ram (2x2gb) or 800 mhz cas 4 ram (2x2). I think the difference in speed might not be that high, but the 1000 mhz might help me overclock. It would take me longer to get on 1000 mhz with a 1:1 FSB;DRAM setting then with 800 mhz. Wich hopefully could help out right?
Edited by Elightos - 6/15/08 at 3:20pm
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