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intel did the exact same things with their quads (fuse 2 older chips together) and no one seemed to care...

if it takes up one PCIe slot, its a single graphics card.
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I hate it when the damn noobies compare it to the performance of two video cards. The 280 was not meant to be the very best card on the market. It is meant to be a beast of a card with a single graphics core. I would say as of right now it did just that. The 280GTX is the best single core core card on the market ATM that is it. Use your geek heads noobies.
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well they are definitely wrong about one thing, they could never make a gx2 280 because that would be somewhere around 400W and it would need about 4 slots to cool the cards. two of those in SLI would be about 800W just for the graphics cards... it's never going to happen, for the same reason there was never am 8800GX2.
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well they are definitely wrong about one thing, they could never make a gx2 280 because that would be somewhere around 400W and it would need about 4 slots to cool the cards. two of those in SLI would be about 800W just for the graphics cards... it's never going to happen, for the same reason there was never am 8800GX2.
Yup, and that comment is where I think the author lost all credibility on this subject. He became a fanboy with that statement.

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I hate it when the damn noobies compare it to the performance of two video cards. The 280 was not meant to be the very best card on the market. It is meant to be a beast of a card with a single graphics core. I would say as of right now it did just that. The 280GTX is the best single core core card on the market ATM that is it. Use your geek heads noobies.
What?! Comparing it to the performance of two card is perfectly legitmate. People need to know how much their money will get them and SLI of one card could very well be more cost-effective than a single card of another model. And it is Nvidia's high-end card of their "new" generation so being thought of as needing to be top-of-the-line comes with the territory, though their flagship card remains the 9800GX2. Furthermore, their pricing puts them near the cost of a 9800GX2.

Does anyone see Nvidia's countless G92 rehashes as lame? Thinking about buying one of these new cards makes me feel like I were buying a used car from a guy who I had just seen driving that same car backwards through town to run down the mileage and pass it off as newer, only to have him say "See! Brand new!" while pointing at the odometer.
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Not that i don't agree with most post here, but seriously stop calling GT200 a refreshed G92 cause it's not. If any1 have read the review fully...

Additions:
1) Power Consumption utilities (25W idle is less than what G92 have, downclocking ability and ability to turn blocks of the GPU off)
2) Local cache (The new shader architecture has some cool new features. Sitting in-between them now is an integration of local cache memory (16k software managed cache). It is sitting in-between a block with 8 shader cores. So simply put, what helps here is that the data / instruction doesn't have to leave the GPU anymore to crunch it's data (normally in the regular framebuffer memory. This is a very significant improvement in the architecture.)

And power consumation is normal and on par with 8800 as well ass operating temps, so nothing extreme here.

As for performance it looks fine, sure i hoped for more, but then again drivers may give us the edge, who knows.

I really hope price will drop to 500$ as some sites claimed, cause at this point 260 looks much better.
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Not that i don't agree with most post here, but seriously stop calling GT200 a refreshed G92 cause it's not. If any1 have read the review fully...

Additions:
1) Power Consumption utilities (25W idle is less than what G92 have, downclocking ability and ability to turn blocks of the GPU off)
2) Local cache (The new shader architecture has some cool new features. Sitting in-between them now is an integration of local cache memory (16k software managed cache). It is sitting in-between a block with 8 shader cores. So simply put, what helps here is that the data / instruction doesn't have to leave the GPU anymore to crunch it's data (normally in the regular framebuffer memory. This is a very significant improvement in the architecture.)

And power consumation is normal and on par with 8800 as well ass operating temps, so nothing extreme here.

As for performance it looks fine, sure i hoped for more, but then again drivers may give us the edge, who knows.
It is a refresh of the G92, and saying it's not isn't going to change anything. Just because they added features doesn't mean it's any different. The information you listed certainly doesn't support the it's-not-a-G92-rehash view, either.
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post #57 of 78
For a SINGLE GPU, this is effing amazing. Sure, the GX2 is beating it in quite a few games, but the GTX 280 also has a few games where it is leading by quite a few FPS. Seeing the results from the GTX 280 as a SINGLE GPU solution, this card is quite the beast. I am curious about its SLI scaling, because it would appear to me that since it is close and sometimes quite a bit better than the GX2, putting 2 GTX 280's in SLI should give it a definite lead.

What should also be considered is the fact that today's reviews are based on beta drivers, and I have yet to see gaming results with an eVGA card after some good OCing. Once this card is released along with some official drivers, I want to see reviews with an eVGA GTX 280, maybe with a Superclocked version as well.
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I hate it when the damn noobies compare it to the performance of two video cards. The 280 was not meant to be the very best card on the market. It is meant to be a beast of a card with a single graphics core. I would say as of right now it did just that. The 280GTX is the best single core core card on the market ATM that is it. Use your geek heads noobies.
if it wasnt meant to its priced as if it was. thats why its getting all its bashing, because it doesnt perform anywhere CLOSE to what its price is. what ever you pay for, you should get the right performance. if that means getting 2 8800GTs, then so be it.
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Now this is an upgrade from my ultra.
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What?! Comparing it to the performance of two card is perfectly legitmate. People need to know how much their money will get them and SLI of one card could very well be more cost-effective than a single card of another model. And it is Nvidia's high-end card of their "new" generation so being thought of as needing to be top-of-the-line comes with the territory, though their flagship card remains the 9800GX2. Furthermore, their pricing puts them near the cost of a 9800GX2.

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I think I was misunderstood. Yes it is legit to benchmark the 280 and the GX2. What I am refereeing to is the fact that I keep seeing people type that if it cannot beat the GX2 it is a waste. Yes I am para phrasing and such but I hope I am clearer. In a nut shell if someone is like "that card is crap because it is trumped by the GX2 is WAYYYY off base. This card is in a different class.
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