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ATI learned from their mistake last year and it looks like Nvidia will have to learn from theirs this year.
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That's cute! He's trying to fight back!
Wow.

And I though I was something of an ***hole on this website...

Btw, your avatar is really gay.
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Wow.

And I though I was something of an ***hole on this website...

Btw, your avatar is really gay.
ROFL........now it shows with a white background
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People.

Seriously, who in the HELL was EXPECTING this card to be able to trounce a GX2? I mean, COME ON. That's TWO friggin cards against one, basically! The fact that it even comes close in some cases, and isn't THAT far behind in any case, means that this is one impressive chip/architecture. Is it worth the cost on a p/p ratio vs a GX2? Obviously not, at least, not with the current drivers.

I think everyone's become a bit spoiled by their expectations with new chip generations ever since the 8800GTX came out. That kind of advancement was 5 years in the making, it was a 'once in a decade' kind of performance improvement. You look at ANY other generation in the last 10 years (and believe me, I've watched all of them) and you will NOT see a jump like the 7900GTX to the 8800GTX apart from that jump.

And furthermore, the card that this should be most fairly compared to is NOT the GX2, but rather the 8800GTX, which this chip is the true successor to.

As an example, remember when the 7800GTX 256MB came out (original top of the line of it's generation), it was $500, and it was nowhere NEAR as much better than the 6800 Ultra as this new GTX280 is vs. the 8800GTX, which is itself a friggin MONSTER to this day. But people were impressed, and they bought lots of them (along w/the 7800GT).

I think people's expectations are way out of whack if they expect this SINGLE GPU solution to be able to beat out a THREE MONTH OLD top of the line DUAL GPU card!

Bottom-line, I expect these prices to come down and more into line with it's real price/perf ratio. And for the GX2 to be going away very soon.
    
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It doesn't matter whether it's one GPU, two, or even 10. What matters is what performance it offers, how much heat it releases, how much current it needs and what it costs. Considering all of those the 9800GX2 is the winner.

The problem isn't that the GTX 280 isn't the big leap 8800 GTX was, the problem is that for the past few years nVidia has been struggling with bringing new cards that fully outperform their previous ones.

We see the 9800 GTX being beaten by the 8800 GTX, and now we see the GTX 280 beaten by the 9800GX2. No matter how you take it that's not cool.
post #26 of 32
Myself like the holy crap experience, wake me up in a year when I can say it again nothing sucks more than dropping $2500+ on a new system and wondering if you can tell a difference.

If I drop $2500+ into my car or motorcycle engine I can say it
Edited by USFORCES - 6/16/08 at 6:40pm
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post #27 of 32
lets hope 4850 beats 3870x2! that would be awesome.
if 4870 beats 9800x2, nvidia is in trouble.
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post #28 of 32
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lets hope 4850 beats 3870x2! that would be awesome.
if 4870 beats 9800x2, nvidia is in trouble.
i really dont think the 4850 will beat the 3870x2 in performance , but If the 4870 beats the 9800x2 ...

This is a great month for gaming pc hardware , I just hope we gonna have both Ati cards benchmark on the 24 but .. i expect only the 4850 .

P.s if Ati card win this ... imagine how much Nvidia will lower the price of there cards its a Win on both side for consumers , Nvidia fanboi or Ati .
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post #29 of 32
Looking at it one way, it seems like Nvidia (and perhaps ATI as well) have hit a performance wall. The 8800GTX was the point where they lost the track. What I got from the article, is that Nvidia is basically trying to take the G80 chip and improve on it (ie squeeze it for all it's worth) before moving on to new tech . It's a cash cow and they are getting every penny. I'll just stick with my gtx for now. Maybe SLI..
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I think everyone's become a bit spoiled by their expectations with new chip generations ever since the 8800GTX came out. That kind of advancement was 5 years in the making, it was a 'once in a decade' kind of performance improvement. You look at ANY other generation in the last 10 years (and believe me, I've watched all of them) and you will NOT see a jump like the 7900GTX to the 8800GTX apart from that jump.
RIVA TNT -> Geforce

?

That was a pretty good improvement.

Also the Radeon 9000 series was rather major too.
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