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I'm fine with this as long as they truly take "charging by the byte" to heart. For example, my grandmother pays $19.99/month for DSL... If she only checks her email every other day and uses the occasional "gugle" as she puts it then she should be charged @ a greatly reduced rate. I doubt she even uses 1gb per month. So if the ISPs offer a $2.50/month plan for those who use 2gb or less so be it. If they only impose "caps" to milk more money from high BW users then F them and the BS train they rolled up in on. I'm all about fair usage but it better damn well be fair and not merely a ploy to make more money.
They won't do that even for the old ladies. They will charge her $20 a month and say tough if you don't use it all. The caps aren't to milk money from bandwidth users. The high bandwidth users are the scapegoat. The real reason is they want more money while providing less service. So if you pay $50 a month for your plan and then on top of that, they can charge you an additional $20 for going over. They are making more money. The funny thing is that the reason I switched to cable was to get away from dial up charging you by how much you download per month. Now they want to do the same. I mean I understand that they feel like they need more of our money but damn this is getting retarded.
Edited by KamuiRSX - 6/16/08 at 3:14pm
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Let's get something clear: They won't make it considerably cheaper for people who don't use much bandwidth. They said it themselves that that accounts for about 90-95% of their users. They're not going to gain much by allowing them discounts.
Now, if the contract doesn't state a bandwidth limit how are they going to explain the extra charges?
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My ISP charges extra cash since i usually go past my 90 gig limit.
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if you pay for a months worth of internet, thats what you should get. you should be able to use all the bandwidth you want, for the entire month because you paid for it. thats a load of horse**** if they start charging for usage.
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They won't do that even for the old ladies. They will charge her $20 a month and say tough if you don't use it all. The caps aren't to milk money from bandwidth users. The high bandwidth users are the scapegoat. The real reason is they want more money while providing less service. So if you pay $50 a month for your plan and then on top of that, they can charge you an additional $20 for going over. They are making more money. The funny thing is that the reason I switched to cable was to get away from dial up charging you by how much you download per month. Now they want to do the same. I mean I understand that they feel like they need more of our money but damn this is getting retarded.
I agree that what they're after is more money coupled with providing less service... But by playing the high BW user scapegoat card, IMHO, they have opened Pandora's box. It has to cut both ways, and if I have to write my representatives on my grandmother's behalf so be it.

I'm somewhat worried there are even more sinister implications... By what means will the ISPs measure and track BW consumption? Will they log each and every key stroke to assess a more accurate picture of our BW consumption? Will they use their logs of "tracking information for the purpose of assessing accurate BW consumption" to place smart ads?

^ Is there any true to that? I don't know, but I'm not sure I want to risk finding out the hard way.
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Whoever does this, i will sign with someone who doesnt. If AT&t tries to charge me a fee to cancel my contract, i will sue them for changing the terms.

Either way, i don't think most people would have a problem with a throttling cap of some sorts but the providers keep playing games of where that cap is at when in reality, they just want to milk us for more money. It wouldn't be unexpected but it is Bulls#!t because they get Federal money to KEEP UP WITH BANDWIDTH REQUIREMENTS. Where is the story on that?!

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I agree that what they're after is more money coupled with providing less service... But by playing the high BW user scapegoat card, IMHO, they have opened Pandora's box. It has to cut both ways, and if I have to write my representatives on my grandmother's behalf so be it.

I'm somewhat worried there are even more sinister implications... By what means will the ISPs measure and track BW consumption? Will they log each and every key stroke to assess a more accurate picture of our BW consumption? Will they use their logs of "tracking information for the purpose of assessing accurate BW consumption" to place smart ads?

^ Is there any true to that? I don't know, but I'm not sure I want to risk finding out the hard way.
The thing is, the FCC and Congress can't do anything to stop them because technically there is an alternative. You can get 56k or DSL. They both suck but they are considered to be alternatives to cable internet. As is right now, they pretty much log almost everything you do online to track your habits but you're right it's not clear for what purpose right now but I'm sure it will become clear real soon. My guess is they'll start selling your habits to the highest bidder for "research purposes" or some other bs excuse. I do feel for your grandma though because if this happens, my guess is the base price is going to go up by about $10-15 bucks for the base plan. AT&T though should remain the same because they are all about showing the price difference between them and cable.
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Good thing I don't use any of these guys. Optimum Online ftw
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I noticed that Verizon was not on that list (Time Warner, Comcast, and AT&T). I guess it's time to switch. I bet I'm one of those "bandwidth hogs" that they slow down the connection of during peak times. I always notice that my internet slows to a crawl mid-day on Sunday. This happens every week.
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Both sides have very legitimate arguments.

If the ISP did as was suggested and offered a flat rate fee for bandwidth so that those who use very little pay very little and those who use a lot pay quite a lot, I am all for it. But we all know it will not turn out like this.
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