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Hi all,

Just signed up and read a couple of the FAQs and essential posts, haven't found what I wanted to ask in them so I'm looking for a little advice. I'm looking to overclock my CPU. My setup is:

Pentium(R) D 2.8Ghz processor
Asus P5N-D Motherboard
2x2GB 667MHz DDR 2 Kingston ValueRAM
XpertVision 8800 GT Graphics

I'm using the CPU heatsink/fan that came with my processor. I've just downloaded Speedfan to monitor temperature and found that my CPU runs at up to 82C under stressful operations, and presumably has been doing so since I set my machine up a couple of months ago. My first question is - is this bad before I even start, and if so what kind of cooler should I be looking at?

Secondly, I've flashed the latest release for my motherboard's BIOS and have gone looking for overclocking options. I can find an option to adjust the multiplier but I take it this won't work? (I haven't actually tried it.) I can't find any option to increase the thing that it multiplies, or a way to unlock it (and I've checked several FAQs and help pages to no avail.) Am I missing something?

However, there is an AI overclock mode that will allow me to overclock by 5%, 10%, 15% or 20%, which boosts my CPU speed accordingly. I've been using a Sega Saturn emulator as a simple stress and performance test as it really strains my machine, +10% makes a big performance difference but the heat shot up to 85C fairly rapidly so I shut it down right away.

Finally, is my CPU a bit out of date anyway, and should I be looking at a newer one? Dabs don't even seem to sell them anymore. If so, do you have any recommendations?

Thanks in advance for any help!
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post #2 of 9
okay, go to your bios and raise your Front Side Bus. raising the multiplier wont work because you can only LOWER it, which will DECREASE performance.

EDIT: DONT OVERCLOCK, YOUR CPU IS WAY TO HOT. get a new core 2 duo or core 2 quad. how much money can you spend?
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Thanks, I've now located the front serial bus (previously referred to as 'thing that you multiply') and left it alone pending better cooling.

I might be able to spend up to £100 at the moment, but if possible I'd rather get this one cooled down and overclocking, and get a better CPU later.
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Well first of all...you should take a vist to "User CP" (located at the top of the page). Click on "Add a System"....and put your computer specs in there. That'll give you a "sig rig" (like mine below), and it will help us to help you.

Other than that..I honestly couldn't help you . I JUST NOW started working with Intel CPU's yesterday, clocking my very first Pentium D right now...and having just about as much luck as you are. I wish you luck though .
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post #5 of 9
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Thanks, filled in all I can for now, will work out some more and update it tomorrow.
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post #6 of 9
Alright...just re-read your first post.

Your CPU is running WAAAAY too hot. Get yourself some Arctic Silver 5 thermal grease. When you get that, remove your heatsink and fan, clean all the grease off with some Rubbing Alcohol and a paper towel (works fine for me). Then put a small dot in the center (or other method as you see fit), and put your heatsink back on. There's absolutely NO reason I can see why you're running that hot on stock speeds.

Another idea...maybe your stock heatsink has a broken clip? All four clips should be firmly attached. I know this happened with one of my Pentium D's, so I had to replace the stock cooler with another. My load temperatures dropped from 90*C (right around where you're at) to 55*C just by getting a proper mount.

And yes, your CPU is quite outdated. If you are interested in a replacement, the cheaper Core 2 Duo's are quite decent. The e21x0 series or the e2200 series are quite good for the money.
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Opened up my case today to find a colossal amount of dust and fluff living on my heatsink. Once I took that off my temperature came right down, I've gradually overclocked the FSB from 800 => 1000 with a 14x multiplier to go from 2.8 to 3.5 so far, temperature hasn't gone above 53C. Going to look at stability testing now.

There were options in my bios to have memory and cpu 'linked' (Memory Clock Mode linked/unlinked/auto and Memory Ratio Auto/1:1/5:4/3:2/Sync Mode.) It was linked by default but I've unlinked it and this grayed out the memory ratio option. This is right?
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Hey I have the same mb with the 0502 I am complete noob with overclocking but I am having a hard time finding where I adjust the settings on this MB.
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post #9 of 9
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Enter BIOS
Advanced
Jumperfree Configuration
AI Tuning => Manual
FSB & Memory
Memory Clock => Unlinked (or linked, if you want to link cpu + memory increases)

You can now adjust your FSB speed.
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