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Page 1 - An introduction to the GeForce GTX 280
Page 2 - Mini-tour around a massive card
Page 3 - GeForce 9800 GX2 and GeForce GTX 280 physical comparision
Page 4 - Taking apart the GeForce GTX 280
Page 5 - The nitty-gritty details
Page 6 - Test setup and notes
Page 7 - Benchmarking: Futuremark 3DMark Vantage and Enemy Territory: Quake Wars
Page 8 - Benchmarking: Crysis, World in Conflict and Unreal Tournament 3
Page 9 - Brief overclocking and conclusion: Is the GeForce GTX 280 a worthy upgrade?




In short, the NVIDIA GeForce GTX 280 1GB does not live up to the hype that it generated prior to its release. Indeed there is performance increase, but the difference is not much, and would not affect the majority of the intended group of buyers, who are avid gamers running on medium to large screens, by much. The drivers for the GeForce GTX 280 are very young, and we should be seeing a couple more of revisions soon, together with faster frame rates from minor tweaks here and there with each release.

Some other benefits that do not come as raw performance include lessened complexity in the design of the GeForce GTX 280 as compared to the GeForce 9800 GX2, which may result in a smaller chance of hardware failure. The GeForce 9800 GX2 cooler pumps hot air out via its side, causing internal temperatures of a case to rise. In contrast, almost all the heat (minus the small gaps near the end) is exhausted through the rear vent which can help in preventing rising case temperatures especially when the whole system is on prolonged load.



Who should not buy this card? If you're currently running on an NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GX2 1GB card, you should stay put with that card until we get more concrete performance results as the drivers for the NVIDIA GeForce GTX 280 1GB mature before deciding.

Who should buy this card? If you're looking for a new high-end solution, the NVIDIA GeForce GTX 280 1GB is for you. It is the fastest performing part out there in the market, and will be, until ATI releases its Radeon HD 4870 solution which may pose a threat to the GeForce GTX 280. There are no benefits by sticking to the slightly-matured GeForce 9800 GX2 part. Enthusiasts looking forward to cranking some impressive figures from benchmarks should consider the GeForce GTX 280 too. You have the ability to SLI three of these cards, as compared to two only on the GeForce 9800 GX2, and get better scores, assuming your processor does not end up bottlenecking you

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Hmm I don't understand why people are comparing this single gpu against SLI [GX2]. Yes I know the older card was the top tier product and it should be beaten by the new product but surely you can see what is wrong with this logic.

Regardless of how it preforms, I think the biggest problem people have with the GTX280 is its price. If it were say $499, I think most would be saying how it triumphs over the GX2. I guess nVidia were too ambitious in their design as the pricing [shows both implicit and explicit costs] is far too high considering the performance AND price of the product it is replacing as the enthusiast product.
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Basically, don't get the GTX 280 unless you play 2560 x 1600.
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Hmm I don't understand why people are comparing this single gpu against SLI [GX2]. Yes I know the older card was the top tier product and it should be beaten by the new product but surely you can see what is wrong with this logic.

Regardless of how it preforms, I think the biggest problem people have with the GTX280 is its price. If it were say $499, I think most would be saying how it triumphs over the GX2. I guess nVidia were too ambitious in their design as the pricing [shows both implicit and explicit costs] is far too high considering the performance AND price of the product it is replacing as the enthusiast product.
The second half of your post should help you understand your curiosities in the first half. The GX2 is cheaper, and performs on par, or +- some %. It's a single product selling for less that offers approximately the same performance. So, what exactly is the problem?
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The card does beat the 9800GX2 But not by much, not a worthy upgrade if you own a 9 series card.
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and I even think hte 9800 gx2 drivers are still iffy, I tried the 177.80 or something like that the other day and lost 10 fps.
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I think that linskingdon is not an actual person but some kind of bot that crawls the web and finds all the good and pertinent articles.
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I think that linskingdon is not an actual person but some kind of bot that crawls the web and finds all the good and pertinent articles.
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The second half of your post should help you understand your curiosities in the first half. The GX2 is cheaper, and performs on par, or +- some %. It's a single product selling for less that offers approximately the same performance. So, what exactly is the problem?
I guess I look at things differently

Hey has anyone else noticed that the Vantage results show a bigger margin than other Futuremark benches? It's like nVidia payed them or something.
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ya with my gx2 and the new 177.26 betas (or so called leaked whql) I went from 11,500 to 12,200 performance preset obviously. (using the 175.80 for the 11,500 score which was about the same with the 175.16 whql drivers currently on nvidias site)
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