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When you guys are posting CPU temps are these the core temps? Currently @ 1.45v, I will test lower voltages tonight, my cores peak at 97C according to HWMonitor under full orthos load/idle @ 59C. I have one of the newer 2180's and it runs MUCH hotter than the older first gens like I used to have. I have however managed to hit 3.2 (356x9) last night; higher than my old 2180.

The boot/no boot issues also happen with the G33/35 boards and BIOS updates didn't seem to help at all. Just because it doesn't boot up first shot after an overclock, I found that restarting once or twice the BIOS might catch and boot, but any more attempts were fruitless.
That is waay too hot IMO. HWMonitor are the temps we go by (because it assumes the TjMax is 100*C). Really, I would back down the overclock until you can get a better cooler or a lapping kit. 80*C is the absolute max I would run mine for more than a few minutes.

You may also want to try a remount on the cooler as it seems high for that voltage.
Edited by coffeejunky - 6/19/08 at 2:57am
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Yea 97C is blazing hot, but i want speed and portability (LAN gamer) so I got a small lanbox which are notorious heatboxes. I screwed down the CPU cooler with the thermal paste it came with, I can reseat it with some AS5. Is there any particular direction the cooler should be mounted? It has 4 heatpipes on one side which faces the side intake grille being hit by (limited) fresh air and the fin openings point towards the rear exhaust fans and other side towards RAM heatspreaders. :|??
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Yea 97C is blazing hot, but i want speed and portability (LAN gamer) so I got a small lanbox which are notorious heatboxes. I screwed down the CPU cooler with the thermal paste it came with, I can reseat it with some AS5. Is there any particular direction the cooler should be mounted? It has 4 heatpipes on one side which faces the side intake grille being hit by (limited) fresh air and the fin openings point towards the rear exhaust fans and other side towards RAM heatspreaders. :|??
I think a remount should help, You only need a thin line of AS5. DI don't think you will get a better airflow setup that what you have described. I wouldn't want to be running it at that temp for long, so if you can't improve temps you may have to sacrifice a bit of the overclock..
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When you guys are posting CPU temps are these the core temps? Currently @ 1.45v, I will test lower voltages tonight, my cores peak at 97C according to HWMonitor under full orthos load/idle @ 59C. I have one of the newer 2180's and it runs MUCH hotter than the older first gens like I used to have. I have however managed to hit 3.2 (356x9) last night; higher than my old 2180.

The boot/no boot issues also happen with the G33/35 boards and BIOS updates didn't seem to help at all. Just because it doesn't boot up first shot after an overclock, I found that restarting once or twice the BIOS might catch and boot, but any more attempts were fruitless.
Hehe.. For some reason, I read this and think he has to be joking! I don't see how you aren't BSOD'ing at that temp! 97C is insane!
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Thanks Coffeejunky for the tips.

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Hehe.. For some reason, I read this and think he has to be joking! I don't see how you aren't BSOD'ing at that temp! 97C is insane!
Heheh nah i wish I was joking. If I drop the vCore just a tad and run the same loads it does BSOD. It must need lots of voltage to remain stable at those cramped temps. It's the downside of owning a small lanbox. Last night I turned it down to 2.66 @ stock voltage and bumped up the RAM speed. No noticeable gaming difference other than load times are a bit longer, but no biggie. Temps now don't go over 80C and its a much quieter rig. I guess I'll post up if this little 2180 fries, durability test Though I believe these Intel dual cores are pretty tough

I had an Asus gaming laptop in Iraq with a T7200 C2D and with the high temps over there combined with gaming load, that little C2D would hit about the same 93-95C sustained and it lasted my whole tour over there plus the rest of its time with me. I owned that laptop almost 2 years before I sold it.
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I'm sitting at 3Ghz (300x10) with vcore of 1.42v in the BIOS, which shows 1.44v in Windows and under full load with Orthos running small FFT's showing temperatures of 44 degrees Tcase and 56 degrees Tjunction. In order to get up to 3Ghz I had to nudge my northbridge voltage up to 1.393 from 1.25 if Everest is reading it properly.

My processor -should- be one of the newer batches that requires a bit more voltage to do what others are doing. Gotta hate that VID of 1.325v.
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post #27 of 33
Remount and re-apply the thermal paste.

97c is 'wetalldd'

Q- how is the airflow in the case?

Adding a fan to the NB can help- by keeping the heat from the NB from rising into the cpu cooler..[it is a must for any aircooled rig I put together]

-also, does hardware mon, display the correct Tspec for your stepping, of the cpu? If not, those temps are inaccurate..Are other temp programs showing similar results? I find it hard to believe that the mobo did not shutdown before reaching ~80c...
I have 3x 2180's running 3-3.3ghz w/ stock coolers as f@lders for 24/7 use, getting better temps...
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97c is 'wetalldd'
Whats 'wetalldd'? Never heard that before, google found nothing too

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Q- how is the airflow in the case?
It's a micro box. It's one of the better micro cases I've seen out there. It's quite packed, but all PSU wiring is loomed and tucked away in corners. The only thing in the way of fresh intake air is the fat main rail from the PSU, but thats unavoidable. I've upgraded its case fans recently as well. Has 1x92mm intake for fresh air on HDD's/RAM, 3x60mm exhaust, VGA exhausting, PSU exhausting. There is more exhaust to intake, so fresh air is drawn through grilles on each side. Ambient temps are ok i guess for a micro (~40C+) Room temp is a bit high almost 80F (live in deep southwest)

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Adding a fan to the NB can help- by keeping the heat from the NB from rising into the cpu cooler..[it is a must for any aircooled rig I put together]
NB temps stay about the same as ambient, but with the layout, mobo lays flat, so NB heat gets sucked up by case's exhaust fans, doesn't get to the CPU.

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-also, does hardware mon, display the correct Tspec for your stepping, of the cpu? If not, those temps are inaccurate..Are other temp programs showing similar results? I find it hard to believe that the mobo did not shutdown before reaching ~80c...
From what i can see it does show correctly. BIOS reads about the same. All others I've tried as well, the only one that seems to be off is Realtemp, though I think thats for the newer 45nm's C2D's? I'm also very surprised it hasn't shut down either. I have had it shutdown once on me when I forgot to turn up the Qfan, left it on silent and the cores hit 100C and it rebooted solo.

I'll try reseating and using AS5 while at it, maybe do some lapping. The only other thing I can think of is that there is about a 3cm gap between the top of the CPU fan and the PSU fan. (you can see it in my profile pic) I'm wondering if when the CPU fan spools up if it is pulling in hot air from the inside of the PSU. The PSU fan is a 120mm, but it is slow/quiet and maybe the cooler is pulling harder? Sucks cuz I've tried a bunch of short coolers and now i see the PITA a micro can be for an overclocker. Really considering water cooling since the case supports it...

Thanks for the advice
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Edited by Nellys197 - 6/21/08 at 10:08pm
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Whats 'wetalldd'? Never heard that before, google found nothing too
rofl.. sig'd.. thanks.

sofa-king wetalldd is a members name here on the forum.. and no he is not the sofa king. LOL
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I have this E2180 it requires more Voltage than my E1200 to achieve 3 gig. My Celly can hit over 3 gig with 1.38v but the e2180 need nearly 1.45v to hit magical 3gig.
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