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what they really need to do is lower the prices on blu-ray players. its to late toshiba!
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Any good HDTV will already have upscaling capabilities - it has to in order for the image to be displayed on more pixels than the 640x480 of SD.
Lol, no.

What you are talking about is called "scaling". Basically, it is stretching the lower resolution picture to fit a higer resolution screen. In this case multiple pixels are used to display one pixel. Upscaling or upconversion is about making the low res content into high res content via interpolation so that the content is displayed in the native resolution of the target device and thereby in a higher resolution than the original content.
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post #13 of 32
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Originally Posted by Coma View Post
I don't think so. The difference is glaring, even to the average Joe.
You don't need an eye for it. I've shown the 300 DVD and 300 HD to my friends, most of which aren't too interested in this stuff, and they all said the HD version looks a lot better.

Unless Toshiba can work some magic, this is likely to go down the drain too.
Of course it looks better, the question is, 'Does it look $399 better?'.

The resounding response by the public: "Not really."
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^ Not to mention the higher prices of discs, and the lower availability, and the higher replacement costs if something breaks, and the lack of availability of affordable BD drives for the computer, and the need for better video cards that can decode the content if you chose to go down the HTPC route, and some issues with content protection, and etc...

Well, you get the point.
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post #15 of 32
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Originally Posted by Guruboy View Post
All they need to do is release something with DVD upscaling up to 720P. This makes it so those of us with 1680x1050 or 720p monitors/TVs can play high-definition content at a native resolution! Also, upscaling to 720P is also probably cheaper in a lot of ways that going to 1080P, right? I think that's a perfect market niche, a lot of us have 1680x1050 monitors/720P TVs and it's a big price jump to go to a 24" monitor or 1080P TV.
No one would buy a 720P upscaling dvd player when they can buy a 1080P. I just bought a 1080P upconversion DVD player for 57$. It looks great on my 40 inch LCD. And for that price who cares if its not as good as real Blu Ray for that price id say its worth it.
    
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Originally Posted by kmo_9000 View Post
No one would buy a 720P upscaling dvd player when they can buy a 1080P. I just bought a 1080P upconversion DVD player for 57$. It looks great on my 40 inch LCD. And for that price who cares if its not as good as real Blu Ray for that price id say its worth it.
NOTE TO POSTER: MAIN POINT OF THE POST YOU QUOTED: Resolutions of displays. No one with a 720p or 1680x1050 display cares about 1080p content. I guess same with 1440x900. In addition, most people who can afford a 1080p television are probably looking at (and can afford) 1080p content (BLU-RAY) anyway, yes?

No one would buy a 40" TV when they could buy a 50" TV -oh wait, one is cheaper.
Edited by Guruboy - 6/17/08 at 4:34pm
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Originally Posted by VulcanDragon View Post
I think the research has shown that, by and large, most people are quite happy with the existing DVD technology. No it's not HD, but apparently most people think it's "good enough". I don't know what the price point would be for an upscaling DVD player; but if they can keep it below $100-$125, I'll bet they would make enough money to justify the effort. People aren't going to upgrade a perfectly good DVD player to this stuff; but they might strongly consider it over a Blu-Ray player that is twice as expensive.

Not for me though, I will get a Blu-Ray player one of these days.
I don't think it's good enough at all especially when I try to play a DVD on my screen and it looks pixellated to hell. I say we need movies in 1080p these days but we also need them at a decent price and when Blu-Ray movies are going for twice the price of a DVD movie and the players themselves are so expensive, it's just not worth it.
post #18 of 32
Blu-ray prices will come down. Hell, look at how cheap some movies are now? 3:10 to Yuma and I Am Legend is only $15 at Amazon among many others. There are deals for the movies now all over the place. Players will follow, all the manufacturer's just have to get their productions fully ramped up. That hasn't happened yet, but once it does, prices will go down too. Also, if our economy wasn't in such a bad place right now, I'd bet you'd see a lot more people buying blu-ray.

I did in January and I love it. The difference between DVD and Blu-ray is astounding.
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Hi-def have a real advantage here, people NEED tv's, and you can barely get SD/ED TV's anymore, so when the inevitable happens and old tv's break down, there is no choice but to get HDTV's.

i think one of the main dilemmas with people upgrading what they have is that, people don't just have to buy a new expensive tv but expensive content as well. Not to mention there's the general perception of "Go big or go home".

all the large companies are pushing the "hd experience" with not only larger screens, but expensive recievers and speaker kits that have 3xHDMI ports and cost upwards of 1 to 2 grand, with a bluray player tacked on. and the general perception is that if you don't have 1080P your tv is crap.....but at 7 feet away on a 42" screen WHO CARES, you'll BARELY see a difference. it's like tpeen (theatre)

people are happy with what they have, and if they're upgrading their picture WHY do they have to upgrade their sound as well? that's like saying you can't spend 20 grand renovating the inside of your house because you have to spend 20 grand on the outside as well or it won't give you the same "experience"

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most of them are crap tho, unless you have a sony bravia , or some other high end tv. my ps3 upscaler is horrible, but obviously the blu ray player is incredible.
I have a Sony Bravia XBR, and a PS3, both of which do nice upscaling.
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