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[TPU] ATI Believes GeForce GTX 200 Will be Nvidia's Last Monolithic GPU.

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The head of ATI Technologies claims that the recently introduced Nvidia GeForce GTX 200 GPU will be the last monolithic “megachip†because they are simply too expensive to manufacture. The statement was made after Nvidia executives vowed to keep producing large single chip GPUs. The size of the G200 GPU is about 600mm2¬¬ which means only about 97 can fit on a 300mm wafer costing thousands of dollars. Earlier this year Nvidia’s chief scientist said that AMD is unable to develop a large monolithic graphics processor due to lack of resources. However, Mr. Bergman said that smaller chips allow easier adoption of them for mobile computers.
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They'll keep making 'em as long as people keep buying 'em. Guaranteed.
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These is fighin words.
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They'll keep making 'em as long as people keep buying 'em. Guaranteed.
with money back!
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Aren't NVIDIA going to be using the 55nm for these GPU's, to cut cost, sure I've read that somewhere. It costs more to make them on 65nm, than it will to do on 55, something along those lines anyways.
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They'll keep making 'em as long as people keep buying 'em. Guaranteed.
Yes, until they cost 2k per chip.
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These is fighin words.
Nah, not really. They aren't slagging Nvidia off in any way shape or form, they are simply saying ti is getting too expensive to build monolithic cards. You only have to look at the price of the GTX200's to realize Nvidia aren't exactly cutting costs down.

Whilst ATI seem to be able to bring out improved cards for around the same retail price as last gen, Nvidia seems to raise the price with every generation leap.

Sure they are powerful, but at what cost is the consumer willing to pay for this extra power?
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Aren't NVIDIA going to be using the 55nm for these GPU's, to cut cost, sure I've read that somewhere. It costs more to make them on 65nm, than it will to do on 55, something along those lines anyways.
You are correct, they are in the process right now of cutting the GTX280 to 55nm. The only reason they released it now is because they know the the R700/XT will compete with it in price/performance. In other words they were scared that AMD would build up too much of a market base with nothing out there stopping their new chips from being sold at cheaper prices for enthusiasts.

Anyone buying a GTX280 right now is just wasting money when a new 55nm revision is supposed to be out before Christmas.
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If there is a demand, they will supply the product.

We want a faster card, they make a faster card, regardless of the costs.
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Originally Posted by low strife View Post
If there is a demand, they will supply the product.

We want a faster card, they make a faster card, regardless of the costs.
You do realize Nvidia is a company right? Its not that simple. From the looks of it it doesn't seem economical to make huge GPUs. If they aren't making a decent return on it they aren't gonna produce it, no matter the demand.
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