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What? Almost every flagship card has been in the $600-700 upon release. You are just overlooking history and clining to current catch phrases like, "Smaller fabrication process needed" and "Die size too big!!!" And it's awefully funny that ATI is saying this, considering that their only competing card is the X2, which has a die size of the previous generation, except it's X 2, which puts it right up there with the GTX200 cards in terms of manufacturing cost.
Not really it is cheaper and easier to manufacture 2 small dies then 1 big one.
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With the way Nvidia has been conducting their behavior lately, Nvidia will probably make another solely to prove ATI wrong! With Nvidia holding the performance crown right now and with ATI's plans not to compete at the high-end, Nvidia can pretty much do whatever they want and they will still have eager customers. I'm sure there are plenty of fanboys and plenty of people with deep wallets who will pay anything for the highest performing parts and those guys will keep Nvidia well paid for a while.

Has there been any news of when ATI is going 45/40nm? Once those parts start to come very close to the performance of the GTXs at MUCH lower prices, perhaps Nvidia will think twice, but as of right now, I doubt they're that worried.
    
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Nah, not really. They aren't slagging Nvidia off in any way shape or form, they are simply saying ti is getting too expensive to build monolithic cards. You only have to look at the price of the GTX200's to realize Nvidia aren't exactly cutting costs down.

Whilst ATI seem to be able to bring out improved cards for around the same retail price as last gen, Nvidia seems to raise the price with every generation leap.

Sure they are powerful, but at what cost is the consumer willing to pay for this extra power?
Notice the "Dodgy sarcasm smily and sarcastic grammer"
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With the way Nvidia has been conducting their behavior lately, Nvidia will probably make another solely to prove ATI wrong! With Nvidia holding the performance crown right now and with ATI's plans not to compete at the high-end, Nvidia can pretty much do whatever they want and they will still have eager customers. I'm sure there are plenty of fanboys and plenty of people with deep wallets who will pay anything for the highest performing parts and those guys will keep Nvidia well paid for a while.

Has there been any news of when ATI is going 45/40nm? Once those parts start to come very close to the performance of the GTXs at MUCH lower prices, perhaps Nvidia will think twice, but as of right now, I doubt they're that worried.
last time i heard R870= 45NM
    
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if i had to guess i would say that ATI will move down to a smaller fab process sooner than nvidia because they've seen what benefits intel reaped on the CPU side first hand.

but you could look at this the more pessimestic way as well and say that ATI's R&D was cut and they are very successful at making cards at 55nm, so they won't find it a viable option to shrink down anytime soon.

it really depends on how this hand of cards plays out (no pun intended)
    
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