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what do you man biased??? tri core CPUs were supposed to compete with intels dual core CPU for the same price when at stock because that's what 99% of the market cares about.
Did you read what I said? A Q6600 costs the exact same as a that tri-core they reviewed.

I mean, they could have reviewed a quad phenom vs a q6600 but we all know how that'll end up.
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post #22 of 114
Isnt the 8750 @ 2.4Ghz?? Thats pretty good...
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Or maybe those comments arise from the fact that this site is called "Overclock.net" and furthermore it is known to be inhabited by enthusiasts. It is obvious chips will be rated according to how well they can overclock. We have always known that Phenoms can stand their own at stock speeds.
Thats not always the case, this site maybe called Overclock.net but that does not mean 100% of its population will Overclock. This site is also about other Tech related Gear....We dont Overclock everything on this site because its named Overclock.net lol

I dont Overclock. I generally go for good RAW stock performance and OC if its ever needed....by then there is usually newer tech out that I would rather upgrade to than OC old tech.
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Thats not always the case, this site maybe called Overclock.net but that does not mean 100% of its population will Overclock. This site is also about other Tech related Gear....We dont Overclock everything on this site because its named Overclock.net lol

I dont Overclock. I generally go for good RAW stock performance and OC if its ever needed....by then there us usually newer tech out that I would rather upgrade to than OC old tech.
I have often thought of giving up on overclocking as well but you have to understand that this attitude is in the minority on this site. It is only natural that such a comparison come under criticism.
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Uhhhhhhh obviously a tri-core is going to perform better than a dual core in these benchmarks...
Too true. They chose three games that show a clear performance boost when going over 2 cores. I highly doubt that puttin any other 9 games in there would keep the results in favor of the Phenom.

At the present moment the C2D is still better. You can overclock it, it runs cooler and draws less power. It also performs better in applications that aren't optimized for 2+ cores (because of higher clocks).

Yet it is nice to see AMD offering a competitive product. Let's hope they can catch up to Intel during the next generation.
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post #26 of 114
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Uhhhhhhh obviously a tri-core is going to perform better than a dual core in these benchmarks...
Thats not always a given though. It depends on the application alot of the time.

Also when people are like ''ZOMG thats such an unfair comparison'' well what the hell else are they going to test against. Intel has no Tri core for a truley fair comparison. We all know the Q6600 upwards beats this Phenom....so why state the obvious AGAIN. I do not see a problem in a comparision between a C2D and a Phenom.

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I have often thought of giving up on overclocking as well but you have to understand that this attitude is in the minority on this site. It is only natural that such a comparison come under criticism.
Indeed. The non overclockers are the minority here on OCN.
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Did you read what I said? A Q6600 costs the exact same as a that tri-core they reviewed.

I mean, they could have reviewed a quad phenom vs a q6600 but we all know how that'll end up.
The Q6600 costs more then the 8750 and the E8400 is only $5 cheaper then the 8750.

Plus its 2.4GHz vs 3.0GHz.

Also why the hell mention a quad Phenom and a Q6600, its reviewing the TRI core, they have tests for the Quads, plenty of them and the 9850 actually beats the Q6600 at stock which is what most care about.
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Thats not always a given though. It depends on the application alot of the time.

Also when people are like ''ZOMG thats such an unfair comparison'' well what the hell else are they going to test against. Intel has no Tri core for a truley fair comparison. We all know the Q6600 upwards beats this Phenom....so why state the obvious AGAIN. I do not see a problem in a comparision between a C2D and a Phenom.

That's 'cause the more cores, the better score for these benchmarks.
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post #29 of 114
Well around here the Q6600s are on sale and their pricepoint is awfully close to that of AMD tri-cores.

This has a huge negative impact on AMD sales down here in eastern Europe.
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Nice results for AMD. I am curious to all the ones that said it wins due to more cores. How does that explain all the people getting the E8400 over the Q6600 for gaming? The E8400 has proven to perform better in most current games (granted, that is usually due to its OC ability)

I also agree that, just because we all have a bias towards OCing, that means absolutely nothing to the average user. It is the same as the whole tri core thing. If the money is the same, why not get 3 cores instead of 2? I have always thought that the whole 3 core thing was a good idea for AMD. they basically created their own market from bad yields to compete with C2D's.
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