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I have Vista, and I realize that the Windows Experience Index rating is basically flawed, but for the most part, it's about right. So of course since it is based off of your lowest subscore, my lowest happens to be my processor which is at 4.2 (AMD 64 3500+ @ 2.2GHz). My memory is a 4.9, my graphics is at 5.9, my gaming graphics is at 5.6, and my HDD is at 5.3. So now, I have a pretty outdated motherboard (b/c it's socket 939), but I really like it other than the outdated socket. So, now since I use Vista I figure it's time to get a dual core processor, but my only problem is that it is not easy at all to find a dual core socket 939 CPU. I would say a 2.2 GHz X2 would be good. So I am now asking where you guys would suggest I get one?

PS: The reason I'm not overclocking is either I'm not exactly sure what to adjust or I'm just not able to. It's a Biostar mobo if that provides any type of info.
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Unfortunately, this thread will probably be locked because it's not in the right location, not enough reps to post requests/wanted, etc.

But the only suggestion that is viable, is either look for Close-out deals on NewEgg or TigerDirect. Search PriceWatch.com as well. Sometimes the smaller vendors still have hardware laying around.

Search your local used computer shops (there's at least one in damn near every town). You'll at least have something that is reasonable in price (hopefully) and local so if there is a problem, and they offer a warantee, you can take care of it.

Otherwise, look for people selling old systems and just buy the board and chip together. There isn't an easy way to find it, and probably not cheap if it's from a vendor new since it's hard to find now (and out dated to be honest).

One other place to look for it... E-BAY!!

Good luck with your search.
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You may ask where to find one, but you may not ask the membership for said item(s).
Please edit your post or it will be removed, sorry, you lack the Reps to post such requests and in that, that is why the For Sale/Wanted is structured as it is.
    
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OK, sorry about that guys. Yeah, I found a few on ebay, and I've been desperately looking to try and find one. I was trying to avoid buying a new motherboard if possible. I know this is a bit off topic, but I just downloaded cpuz and I noticed that 2 sticks of my 512 mb ram are pc2700 and the other 2 are pc3200. I was reading that memory (by ddr333 and ddr400) will perform faster based on fsb, and it says my bus speed is 200, so would that mean that ddr400 would be better for my mobo? I'm thinking of buying more ram, so I would like to match it, also is it unsafe to run two different speeds of ram like that?
 
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OK, sorry about that guys. Yeah, I found a few on ebay, and I've been desperately looking to try and find one. I was trying to avoid buying a new motherboard if possible. I know this is a bit off topic, but I just downloaded cpuz and I noticed that 2 sticks of my 512 mb ram are pc2700 and the other 2 are pc3200. I was reading that memory (by ddr333 and ddr400) will perform faster based on fsb, and it says my bus speed is 200, so would that mean that ddr400 would be better for my mobo? I'm thinking of buying more ram, so I would like to match it, also is it unsafe to run two different speeds of ram like that?
Yes, you'll get better performance out of DDR400 ram. It's best for overclocking/performance if you have 2 matching sticks (not 4). There have been people that use 4 sticks of matching with reasonable results (Myself as an example). However, you'll have to know what your motherboard is capable of, and what changes need to be made in the bios to make the overclock work and get the best performance out of the system. It won't hurt anything to run 2 different speeds of ram, but bear in mind, the faster sticks won't perform better, because they'll all run at the fastest common speed (I.E. DDR333 will be the speed cap because that's the fastest slow pair of sticks).

As for looking for purchase of a better processor, you CAN respond to messages for sales, you just can't post new threads. Search the "for sale" portion. Just a 10 second scan found this:

http://www.overclock.net/sale/339212...-mobo-cpu.html
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No, all the RAM will do is 'downclock' to the lowest speed, in this case DDR333

I'm in the same boat, looking to upgrade but keeping the 939 socket. Ebay is the best bet really. Although prices are still high for DDR400 and 939 CPU's

I did see an Opty 146 go for around £7 last week though and an FX-53 (AM2) for £17.
    
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To get the best RAM performance in a 939, two modules is best overall, like a 2x1G set.
With the 939 and 4 modules the system will default to a 2t Command and drop the RAMs performance about 4-8% in real world apps.

4 reasons to get 2x1G DDR400 or if you OC and can find it... DDR500.
1. The DDR333 and DDR400 mix you have as said can complicate things...
2. The T2
3. DDR400 defaulting to DR333
4. The various timing differences and there effect on overall performance.

If shear volume is what you need and the somewhat loss of performance is not of a concern, adding 2 similar DDR400 modules will still work well if your trying to keep costs down..
    
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So let me ask you this--are you looking to upgrade your CPU because you're disappointed with your Windows Vista Experience CPU score, or because you can no longer do things with it as well as you'd like to? Because if you're fine with the performance of the PC, then don't bother upgrading just 'cause you don't like the arbitrary number that you get in experience rating. that's just my opinion. Now on the other hand, I think everyone nowadays should be using a dual-core or multi-core CPU 'cause for the most part, it's just better given what is done nowadays. But to be honest, I am not sure how much of a difference in CPU score you'll get from a single-core at 2.2GHz to a dual core at 2.2GHz --anyone know? I don't feel like disabling one of my cores in the BIOS and running the vista experience at the moment. Could be that you just need a faster CPU? Well, unfortunately given how S939 is more or less dead as far as hardware availability goes, your best be might just be for a partial system upgrade... How much money were you looking to spend on a new X2 if you can find one?
    
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The score is dissapointing, but I can tell when I run the Crysis demo that it seemed like the processor was giving me sound lag, I mean, it actually didn't run so badly as far as graphics on medium and 1024x768 res. but that sounds like Crysis is totally bogging down the CPU. I was also thinking about it because I think I'm going to start using photoshop again (exploring exactly what I want to do when I go to college). But I know photoshop usually takes up a bit of memory/ram. Vista does run fairly well with the setup I have, but I just thought it would be nice to have a dual core so I can make this motherboard last as long as possible. One reason I'm hesitant to upgrade the mobo is because of the SLI capability and how great the board has been for the last 1.5-2 years. I do have another off-topic type of question. I was actually just looking at a 2x1gb package from g-skill that's ddr400/pc3200. Would that make my computer run a bit faster and make me be able to hold out a little longer w/o upgrading CPU and/or Mobo?


PS: Oh, I was basically thinking about spending maybe $100 at most..hopefully.
 
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I see. Well, getting that 2x1 GB RAM kit will probably give you a noticeable performance increase--I'd say it's well worth it for less than $100. Regarding the CPU upgrade--here's a decent one on ebay (I hate ebay though): http://cgi.ebay.com/AMD-Athlon-64-x2...QQcmdZViewItem

While it's 200MHz slower per core than your current CPU, you'll definitely notice the difference in most applications--except something like video encoding which depends entirely on speed of the core and not necessarily number of cores present. At $99 it seems to be the best buy I can find. Hopefully that helps!

I'd suggest, if you can afford it, to go with both the RAM and the CPU upgrade--you'll seriously notice the difference. About a couple months ago I gave my parents my 4400+ X2 S939 rig--otherwise, i'd give you the CPU out of that for cheap... Sorry!

EDIT--I found this 4400+ X2 Toledo for $159--same CPU that I had, even the stepping: http://cgi.ebay.com/AMD-Athlon-X2-44...QQcmdZViewItem
That stepping is the worst overclocking stepping, so if you're looking for a good OC, you likely won't get far--got mine to 2.54GHz stable, no more (from 2.2GHz stock).
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