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post #21 of 73
CoD4 was indeed great. And yes too short, i know, we've all said it.
Bioshock was the strangest story. I liked it, but never finished it.
Crysis.... not even going there.
GTA well, i've completed all of them, including London 1969.
Gears of War, now that, i've played through the story about 13 or 14 times now. Love that story, good thing theres 2 more and a movie being released, or i would have to say too short.
Need for speed Underground and UG2 had good stories. I know most of you wouldn't look into the story behind a racing game, but for me, the story inspired my revenge on the other guys. Most wanted... take my BMW!!!!! I don't F____N think so pal! Anyway, i do hope to have some games that are not only visually appealing, but that keep me in the story for longer than 10 hours. GTA IV did drag on for nothing.
post #22 of 73
i think that games dont need to be longer, but better story lines and gameplay. the only game to ever make me go crazy for it was MGS, there is no better story line than that game
post #23 of 73
Maybe this guy is deciding to make his games extremely short from now on, but I doubt a lot of developers will start doing this, and I sure hope they dont. Although It does seem like games are getting shorter ie: mass effect, cod4.
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Normally I love Warren, been a fan since his Ultima work. But I think he's missed the mark a little here. Games like GTA, or the better role playing games, have got it right: Only require a decent number of hours to see all of the main story, somewhere in the 20-30 hour range is probably more then plenty. But there needs to be enough optional content for the true fans to get their 100 hours in. Any arguments that sensations like GTA4, Oblivion, Final Fantasy 12; or egads, World of Warcraft, which just goes on and on for thousands of hours with no end whatsoever; are in fact "on the way out" is simply not realistic.

His statements are obviously skewed by his current priorities, not the overall market reality. And this quote supports that:

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If we're spending $100 million on a game, we want you to see the last level!"
This is simply wrong on two levels. As an artistic developer, you want to see people playing to the last level; but the costs involved in developing the game are not your concern. As a producer/publisher/whatever, costs are your concern; but you arguably couldn't give one rat's crap whether the players play to 100% completion as long as the game sells a jillion copies. Warren is a rare person who is playing in both of these areas, and the result is confusing positions like this one.
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speaking of AvP, talk about overdue for a new game! AvP would be so awesome now with new tech!

Bring on AvP3!!!
your thoughts is not your own^^ i think more than 40% here have had that wish more than 100 times, still I DEMAND AvP3 NAO!!!
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I think that a story as long as it stays good can last longer... as long as it needs to. A good story makes you want to play it til the end if only to see what will happen next. It can really help you overlook some of the repetition found in games that can make them boring at times.

30hr story with optional gameplay or 100hr story... you'd be shocked what a damn good story can and will do.
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When they can top the unlimited replay value of PSO, then I will be impressed.
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post #28 of 73
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When they can top the unlimited replay value of PSO, then I will be impressed.
PSO?
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PSO?
Phantasy Star Online I think.
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post #30 of 73
At last! A welcome return to value-for-money!

We have been putting up with decent, but short, games for waay too long (imho).

THe last title that was time-wise value for money was HL2. Before that HL1. Before that Quake 1. And before that, DOOM.

Yey for this!
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