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Well last night I decided to install my aging Creative Live! 5.1 card into my sig rig. Had some issues...Vista drivers were crap. I expected this. Found the Daniel K drivers for it, installed them. And well.....

OH MY GOD!!!!

I don't remember the Live! series cards sounding THIS good! Seriously, my music sounds 10x cleaner. The highs are more precise, and the lows....well they suck because of my DuraBrand (Wal-Mart special) subwoofer. But hey, I know they're there now.

I'm even hearing NEW noises in my games! On "Creek" on COD4....THERE'S CRICKETS IN THAT MAP!!!! I've NEVER heard them with my onboard sound.

And my onboard sound used to get processor whine REALLY badly. Now...there's absolutely ZERO extra "noise" that shouldn't be there.

Now a question to those that know sound cards really well:
I also modded my Creative Live! sound card slightly. I noticed the X-Fi chips and other high end cards, have a heatsink on them. Well....I wanted to be cool too . So I thermal glued a copper heatsink (with fins and all that) to the chip on my Live! card.

My question is.....did this help the card at all? I'm curious because I truly and honestly don't remember this card sounding THIS darn good in XP EVER. Just wondering if I did a good thing by modding it with a heatsink or not.

Anyways...thanks for reading this. And please...don't tell me to buy a better card. I got this one free out of an old AthlonXP machine, lol. Onboard is usually just fine for me. I just wanted to do SOMETHING to my rig different, so sound card it was.

PICTURES OF MY MOD HAVE BEEN ATTACHED.


Edited by pioneerisloud - 6/18/08 at 11:12pm
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You're kidding right, how is a hunk of metal (your heatsink) going to make your sound any better?


It's just the nicer drivers.
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You're kidding right, how is a hunk of metal (your heatsink) going to make your sound any better?


It's just the nicer drivers.
Lol, I don't know. I just thought that it helped to cool it better, hence making the sound wiring work easier...I don't know how sound cards work, lol. Hence why I asked the pro's.
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Your sound card runs cooler...can't say that that's saying much to begin with lol.

Nice though, at least you revived an old sound card
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I think so too, only in a very weird way the heatsink may have attenuated the electromagnetic interferences that cause the noise, but it's a very low chance that could have happened.

Creative drivers, now you know what was it all about with that daniel_k scandal. The old sound cards were the most affected.
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Seems like you've had the same good luck with Vista that I have. Running my Audigy 2 in XP yielded decent sound, but the HD codecs in Vista really made the card shine. I might be nuts, but I swear the overall fidelity of my sound got increased lots going to Vista.
    
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I think so too, only in a very weird way the heatsink may have attenuated the electromagnetic interferences that cause the noise, but it's a very low chance that could have happened.

Creative drivers, now you know what was it all about with that daniel_k scandal. The old sound cards were the most affected.
Oh don't EVEN get me started on the official Live! drivers for Vista. VERY distorted and mid-bassy sounding. Crackling bass just logging into Vista. It was HORRIBLE. Creative FORCED me to use modded drivers. There's no excuse for that.
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A dedicated sound card no matter what it is is almost always better than onboard. This is usually the case unless you have some kind of ancient sound card. And that heat sink isn't doing anything for you. Pics?

Driver issues? Welcome to the world of Creative. I finally left Creative behind forever earlier this week after YEARS of anger and frustration with their products and software.
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Seems like you've had the same good luck with Vista that I have. Running my Audigy 2 in XP yielded decent sound, but the HD codecs in Vista really made the card shine. I might be nuts, but I swear the overall fidelity of my sound got increased lots going to Vista.
Good, so I'm not the only one who is hearing a HUGE difference in these older cards in Vista? I mean the Live! series card sounded just okay in XP. It was a small step up from onboard, that was about it.

But in Vista...this same little, usually freebie, cheapo, sound card REALLY shines quite well compared to onboard. I mean I can't even describe the difference. Just EVERYTHING sounds 10x better...if not more. And I'll reiterate....NO MORE PROCESSOR WHINE! Sorry, that's what made me go to this card in the first place, lol. I just can't believe this cheap little card made THIS much difference!
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A dedicated sound card no matter what it is is almost always better than onboard. This is usually the case unless you have some kind of ancient sound card. And that heat sink isn't doing anything for you. Pics?
I'll see what I can do for pics. It depends on if I can see it with my case all together, lol.
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