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Sounds like you could be blaming an OS because of less-capable hardware. Just out of interest what is in the Lappy and desktop computer?
Well the desktop is the one on my sig and the laptop is a Dell XPS 1530 w/ nvidia 8600gt core2 duo 2.2
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In my opinion, after trying all of the choices (XP x86/XP x64 and Vistax86/Vistax64), I honestly can say that in my opinion the 64 bit OS's are better than the 32-bit ones, and that XP better than Vista. The reason I say this is that DirectX 9 is still more efficient than DirectX 10. One of the best games in graphics for the power ( the efficiency of the game engine) is Call of Duty 4, and that was built on DirectX 9.
XP x64 > XP x32 > Vista x64 > Vista x32
Vista uses 1 GB of Ram and the CPU usage fluctuates when idling. I really do not believe it is optimized enough to out-perform XP.
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In my opinion, after trying all of the choices (XP x86/XP x64 and Vistax86/Vistax64), I honestly can say that in my opinion the 64 bit OS's are better than the 32-bit ones, and that XP better than Vista. The reason I say this is that DirectX 9 is still more efficient than DirectX 10. One of the best games in graphics for the power ( the efficiency of the game engine) is Call of Duty 4, and that was built on DirectX 9.
XP x64 > XP x32 > Vista x64 > Vista x32
Vista uses 1 GB of Ram and the CPU usage fluctuates when idling. I really do not believe it is optimized enough to out-perform XP.
Im not trying to start a war here but i agree with this statement when talking about x86. Like i said though, i have no room to talk when it comes to x64
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Sounds like you could be blaming an OS because of less-capable hardware. Just out of interest what is in the Lappy and desktop computer?
I see you used Vlite. I used a buddys version of Vlite to test out and it runs on 256mb memory. How does yours run? Do you know of any websites that will guide me through Vlite to get the best performance.
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In my opinion, after trying all of the choices (XP x86/XP x64 and Vistax86/Vistax64), I honestly can say that in my opinion the 64 bit OS's are better than the 32-bit ones, and that XP better than Vista. The reason I say this is that DirectX 9 is still more efficient than DirectX 10. One of the best games in graphics for the power ( the efficiency of the game engine) is Call of Duty 4, and that was built on DirectX 9.
XP x64 > XP x32 > Vista x64 > Vista x32
Vista uses 1 GB of Ram and the CPU usage fluctuates when idling. I really do not believe it is optimized enough to out-perform XP.
People seem to have no idea how the RAM usage works in Vista at all. Vista will preload applications into RAM that are used frequently by the user. Thus it appears Vista has eaten all your RAM. However if you were to open up a game Vista will release the application currently stored in the RAM to let the game utilize it. Its a very Dynamic system. The memory management IMO is far supirior comapred to XP.

Also CPU usage fluctuates in XP aswel....Its called background tasks. Every Operating system in existence will perform background tasks when Idle such as Indexing or Defragging or even background services.

As for your statement that sticking with XP for DX9 because DX10 is not as good. Well your argument has no grounds. Vista is DX10 compatible but also has a DX9 counterpart. Its not like Vista is DX10 only.

Im not sure that anything I have just read is even a Valid argument here.

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I see you used Vlite. I used a buddys version of Vlite to test out and it runs on 256mb memory. How does yours run? Do you know of any websites that will guide me through Vlite to get the best performance.
Well my Vlited version runs like a Champ. I chose HB aswel as it has everything I need for the system it is currently running on. Not only that I stripped all the un-needed services and applications out of it along with un-needed keyboard layouts and languages. Infact I cleared so much out I cannot remember half of it.

Im not sure of any guides but to be honest its fairly self explanatory and trial and error is the best in this case I find.
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Ok well i will try Vlite and hopefully i can get something good. I like Vista better but i will always choose the better performer.
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jrharvey,

I think my comment was more aimed at Charbs, and I thought you were agreeing with him. I didn't realize you were going with the consensus when you said Vista wasn't good, I thought you were just someone else coming in to bash it. If I came off as a jerk, I apologize.

That being said, all of my previous statements about Vista still remain true. I have noticed absolutely no performance difference in games, and when I had my 8800GT, I was running TF2 with 16x QCSAA at 1600 x 1200 and still getting over 100 FPS. Crysis was the only super-demanding game I played on Vista, and the coding for it is sub-par, so I don't consider it an accurate representation of Vista performance. GRID also ran very well at maximum detail, 1600 x 1200, but with only 4x AA. I actually run GRID now, on my x1950XTX, at 1600 x 1200 and maximum detail, but 2x AA, and it runs perfectly, too.
    
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jrharvey,

I think my comment was more aimed at Charbs, and I thought you were agreeing with him. I didn't realize you were going with the consensus when you said Vista wasn't good, I thought you were just someone else coming in to bash it. If I came off as a jerk, I apologize.

That being said, all of my previous statements about Vista still remain true. I have noticed absolutely no performance difference in games, and when I had my 8800GT, I was running TF2 with 16x QCSAA at 1600 x 1200 and still getting over 100 FPS. Crysis was the only super-demanding game I played on Vista, and the coding for it is sub-par, so I don't consider it an accurate representation of Vista performance. GRID also ran very well at maximum detail, 1600 x 1200, but with only 4x AA. I actually run GRID now, on my x1950XTX, at 1600 x 1200 and maximum detail, but 2x AA, and it runs perfectly, too.
You didnt come off as a jerk. I get the same way when people say that Ubuntu is a linux distro for dummies(as if harder to use is somehow better). Its cool.
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I smell smoke, someone started to flame. I did not see XP's CPU fluctuations come near to XP's, and I had a Vista Gadget which monitored all 4 cores on my main computer with a Q6600 which was running Vista.
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Finally after "6" tries I was able to get my XP 64bit to get decent numbers. nlite is a pretty cool tool. Just by using it i went from 12k to 13k in 3dmark. Not quite what i had in 32bit (13,700) but i can live with it.
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