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I was of course exspecting it soon, but not this soon.
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I was under the impression that FF followed web standards better than IE but not completely.

Go to Toyota.com
Go to Shopping -> Build Your Own
Enter in zip code
Go to top and click "Build Your Own" again
Now select vehicle, and nothing work after that.

Do the same in IE and it works fine.

However, it seems like Toyota has added a new "Build Your Own" that works on FF. This is new (as in the past couple weeks).
Maybe Toyota made the change, maybe FF3 fixed the problem. But in any case, I ran into no problem:





And as for Blackboard - I used it all semester long on Opera, Safari, IE6, IE7, FF2, and FF3 (beta). It worked on all of the above.

Like I said, I've not run into a page that wouldn't work with FF. If it didn't work, all I had to do was allow it in No-Script.
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firefox vs IE

sure it's only someone's opinion but there are some good points









That about sums it up
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Especially after you showed me that IEPro application that adds spell checking!

Actually FF3 has a nice layout. I like it more than IE7. I just don't think that FF3 is superior to IE7.
OK, Let me explain this to you.

There are standards for web design, how to write webpages.

Think of this as the nozzle for petrol pumps. It's a standard, everyone has the same size nozzle, and it works in every car.

Now, Microsoft sell 99% of all cars (browsers) in the world, and they make the hole for their fuel tank square (bad rendering). So all of the petrol pumps (websites) start using square nozzles (badly written code).

Now, the problem is that IE expects badly written code. If you write good code, it displays it wrong in IE, if you write bad code, it displays it wrong in good browsers (Firefox, Opera, anything Gecko based, anything KHTML based, etc...).

Now, The obvious answer is that IE fix their implementation and then everyone writes to standards, which is what all web designers (well, good ones) dream of.
Of course, M$ refuse to do so, so at the moment, we write to standards, then spend ages using hacks to make IE work as intended.

If a site only works in IE, it was designed by a moron who should be shot for failing at his job in the worst way possible.

I'm not denying a site may not work, but that is the site's fault, not the browser. Because of this, it is better you use a proper browser most of the time. That way, M$ might actually get themselves into gear and make the browser standards compliant.
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Now, the problem is that IE expects badly written code. If you write good code, it displays it wrong in IE, if you write bad code, it displays it wrong in good browsers (Firefox, Opera, anything Gecko based, anything KHTML based, etc...).
I find that hard to believe. IE doesn't read anything that's standard?
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I find that hard to believe. IE doesn't read anything that's standard?
It's not that bad, it just doesn't do everything as intended, which in a way, is worse.

IE just renders a page as it thinks it should be rendered, not according to W3C specifications. Now, this works some of the time, and IE7 isn't half as bad as IE6, but it still has major problems, specifically with CSS, where it does things flat out wrong. When I write my code, I expect it to be displayed as the W3C say (and other browsers do) but IE displays it differently.

In theory, by coding according to standards, your site should display exactly the same in any browser, but in practice, IE doesn't do this.
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Here is a flaw that IE has

http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/1019/ieflawrr7.jpg

cant download over a 4GB file lol they even tell you to use a different browser lol

Im using FF But to tell you the truth I really love Opera its my backup browser
Edited by Darkice - 6/21/08 at 5:00pm
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Here is a flaw that IE has

http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/1019/ieflawrr7.jpg

cant download over a 4GB file lol they even tell you to use a different browser lol
That's ridiculous.

Obviously an attempt to stop people downloading Linux ISOs!

Is that actually a real thing? Surely that's a fake, right?
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That's ridiculous.

Obviously an attempt to stop people downloading Linux ISOs!

Is that actually a real thing? Surely that's a fake, right?
It actually does have major issues with large files. Sites offering large files even tell you this sometimes and embrace getting Firefox.
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No its totally real go to the web page in the screenshot it will show you the same thing
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