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Originally Posted by alex98uk View Post
I find i learn more general knowledge and then forget more grammar
agreed
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Originally Posted by guyladouche View Post
I think with such a ready supply of available information (whether or not people use it and understand it correctly is another issue) gives people the illusion of having knowledge and intelligence--like they're god just 'cause they can wiki a subject and read a few important catch-phrases and regurgitate it to someone--but for the most part, the deeper understanding is lacking. That's my opinion on what's going on. I think the people that would have good attention spans and intelligence will still have it, and the Internet isn't going to change that--but the people that are stupid will still be stupid, they'll just appear to know what they're talking about when the actual intelligent people will know they're still full of ****...
Excellent Input-
I believe it's all about the "instant" nature of the Internet: combining with modern "interpersonal relationship"-"skill-sets" and increasing the already prevalent "affliction of ADD"
If you desire instant information- it's there for you;
If you feel like spouting off your own opinion- as if it was the word of God- then, you can rapidly do that too.
If you want to make comments that make you look like a jackas5- You certainly have the opportunity to do that!... Instantly!

So, It goes back to the old adages "Think before You Speak" and "engage brain before putting mouth in gear"
It's just intensified! - too many people have "Impulse" irrationality- they post- without checking spelling, punctuation, grammar, and (more often than not) relevance!
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Originally Posted by Jarhead View Post
There's also another thing to factor in, television literally changes your thought patterns into that of a passive and accepting sheeple, while books force you not only to pay greater attention but to actively process data. The internet is a combination of the two and varies wildly according to the content of any particular website.

One thing that is not debatable is that pager/IM language is slowly destroying literacy(what little that we had left here in the States).
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Originally Posted by newphase View Post
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I believe that t'internet has both the capacity to make us more stupid and infinitely more intelligent and aware.

The tool is there... use it wisely.
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Originally Posted by jinja_ninja View Post
I can understand the argument, however, it depends on the invidividual.

If you spend your entire time on the internet on MySpace and YouTube, you won't learn a lot. I spend a lot of time on the internet literally researching and harvesting anything I am interested in. I have gained so much knowledge in a lot of areas over the past few years.

For me the internet is one big encyclopedia and I'm loving it
All of these quotes have one common thread:
The internet has the variety and capability to satisfy the "sensory input" of just about anybody!
It is all about what the individual desires to extract from it!

You can do serious "in-depth" research into your chosen subject- or just "skim" for an an introductory "synopsis" of something that piques your interest.

It is entirely up to the end user-
Use the internet as a tool; or, be a TOOL on the webz!

Extract information, expand knowledge, broaden horizons, etc.
or
stay insular and myopic and attempt to make the rest of the world fit into a predefined viewpoint -Yours!

We all recognize these posts.....
"I didn't bother reading the thread (tl/dr) but....here's what I think! anyway.. everybody pay attention toMe for some "sckoolin"...

I am about to reveal my vast knowledge and deep thoughts... ALL bow to my Xtreme superiorityness"....


....Aftyer all- (I'mma alwaze riht (My Mommy sez so) and evry1 els is rong
-cuz my l337 brian skilz pwn urz noobz graysorce)

And If U don't agree wit m3h then U R t3h FAIL



I think much of ADD is the fact that the "kids these days" (tail end of My generation included) have been taught by the Yuppie generation to crave attention/ approval)
So if they don't get enough "Attention" then they feel a "Deficit"- It results in seeking out a new stimulus for approval- and hence short attention spans- "That's not "rewarding" enough for me- Time to move on to something else"

So the instant posting does combine the evils of ADD with the narcissism of the "Look at Me" generation!
(What I like to call the "Look Ma- No Hands" Generation!)


Exemplified by some
"Hey everybody, LOOK how leet I am! I just got a new "XYZ" for my Sig"
*Accompanied by picture of High tech and Expensive Part held up by a 15 yr old, standing in their bedroom with all their Goodies*

Everything "On Display" for receiving maximum attention/adulation
- 24" LCD, Xbox, PS3 (& PS2 to prove they're "old School"), and a Wii.
(And a Sig Rig with a 790i board, a QX9xx, 8GB of DDR3 20000, 2TB etc. etc. - Labeled "My First Build" )
not really I
Cheers


OK: hands up! Who actually read through all of that? (Bueller, Bueller?)
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Originally Posted by Rev1 View Post
I would also say that the internet forums creates more passive-aggressive people than ever before! ... if you compare how people used to post in forums long ago (say earlier 2000s) compared to now, people have become much more aggresive... mostly because you're more likely to say "you're an idiot, go eff yourself" by typing it, than in person... which is pretty sad...

I tell people to go play chicken with a runnin chaingun in real life all the time...


I also told one guy to do an expirament and find out exactly why they would put the "Do not use hands, feet or testicles to stop chain" label found on some chainsaws. Never heard from him again...lol
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I guess it makes you stupid. Not me personally though, I actually go read historical stuff or science stuff. The internet has taught me alot.
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I think this is Totally wrong its not the internet thats the problem as with most tech when theres a problem its the user not the Tech...
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Originally Posted by megajesus View Post
I guess it makes you stupid. Not me personally though, I actually go read historical stuff or science stuff. The internet has taught me alot.
yes i depend it's what you read. this site and many others are really helpful when you're getting to know computers

im a bit stupid as the source says; i sometimes skip an entire hardware review and just look at the performance graphs and the conclusion. doesn't really give me the whole picture on what's the best item to get.
    
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Originally Posted by Coma View Post
Perhaps, but not in the way they're saying.

Being able to skim through is much more efficient than having to read the entire thing to find what you want.

It's kinda like doing a mental CTRL+F. It is much better for learning new things because you don't learn things that are useless to you.
exactly.
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PEBKAC ERROR
Problem Exists Between Keyboard And Chair

The internet is a tool...and just like most tools, when something goes wrong, it's a PEBKAC ERROR...granted, the keyboard and chair aren't there in most cases...
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The internet doesn't make anyone any more stupid than they already are.

Things like Google and Wikipedia are nothing more than enormous repositories of information that are much more easily accessed due to the speed and efficiency of their layouts and organization.

You may be privvy to thousands and thousands of facts, but that doesn't make you intelligent. What makes a person intelligent is how they interpret the facts and question the WHY instead of just the WHAT.
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Rofl, internet making us stupid?. depends what you use the internet for. to me thats no better than saying the world makes us stupid. this is just a meaningless simple generalisation.

Carr, you're a complete moron. no wonder the article is so short.

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Originally Posted by Carrtheidiot
In fact, Carr argues, when we give in to the natural impulses to click and skim
He probably uses the internet as a large pornography archive; why else would you come to such a childish conclusion to one of the greatest versatile tools of mankind?
Edited by Thingamajig - 6/23/08 at 7:20am
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