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have done some tests
i tried 1.5250 vcore then up fsb from 380 to 397 up can't POST maybe 1-2 increasement
then i down vcore 0.0125 a time
till 1.500
then try down fsb by 2 = 395 and down vcore to 1.4875 when down vcore by 0.0125 less than 1.4875 cant POST @ 395
what all that's meant ? is that fsb hole
thanks ...
That means, I think you have hit the limit of your processor. You may just have to be happy with 2.9ghz .
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That means, I think you have hit the limit of your processor. You may just have to be happy with 2.9ghz .
thanks
even can run @ 3.2 with 1.5250 vcore with stock cooler lol and stable
does fsb hole related with cpu or mobo
if i want to move accross that hole by add core voltage >?
seems nice with after market cooler with multi of 9 + 397 fsb
but soon buy nice aftermarket cooler ifx-14 + three 12 cm fan maybe 14 cm
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thanks
even can run @ 3.2 with 1.5250 vcore with stock cooler lol and stable
does fsb hole related with cpu or mobo
if i want to move accross that hole by add core voltage >?
seems nice with after market cooler with multi of 9 + 397 fsb
but soon buy nice aftermarket cooler ifx-14 + three 12 cm fan maybe 14 cm
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FSB holes are usually related to the mobo. More voltage will not help in your case, I don't think. I think the CPU is at fault in this case, not the mobo.
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FSB holes are usually related to the mobo. More voltage will not help in your case, I don't think. I think the CPU is at fault in this case, not the mobo.
please can you explain why my cpu is faulty ?
it can run 3200 with multiplier of 9

" Ah right. Maybe your motherboard has a FSB hole. Try upping by to 420mhz on the FSB, you may need to give the NB (MCH) some more voltage and you can give the CPU up to 1.5v - I've been up to 1.55v for suicide benches. Although at those voltages your cooling will probably not be good enough . Make sure your RAM is not overclocked at all as that can cause issues - 1:1 is not neccessary."


is that the way to pass fsb hole ?
by upping core voltage

nice there is no mobo prob's
what cpu upgrade do you prefer or same cpu with new rev g0
with lower vid maybe
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i think that cpu will run out of fsb before that board does tbh.
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Your cpu is capable of more, chances are. I would up your MCHv and your VTT/PLLv. Lowering the cpu multi will raise the effective speed of the NB ~45mhz over your current FSB speed.

ie- if stock cpu multi is 10x... then setting 400FSB with a 9x multi... your NB will be running ~445mhz FSB.

I have seen a few E2xxx's get up near 460mhz FSB.. so it has to do a lot with the cpu. For me, I own a 2200, 2180 and a 2160.. all of which are running 3-3.3ghz between 380-420mhz FSB. Keeping the vcore below 1.5v and raising the FSB/VTT/PLLv [whatever it is called in your BIOS] helped me to keep the cpu stable at the higher FSB's.

Highest recorded boot, was 3.7ghz on my e2200.. it needed to be on water to keep temps under 60c and keep things stable.
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    i think that cpu will run out of fsb before that board does tbh.
  1. thanks
  2. i understand that cpu's problem
  3. ok is there still fsb hole ? mobo's problem ?
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Your cpu is capable of more, chances are. I would up your MCHv and your VTT/PLLv. Lowering the cpu multi will raise the effective speed of the NB ~45mhz over your current FSB speed.

ie- if stock cpu multi is 10x... then setting 400FSB with a 9x multi... your NB will be running ~445mhz FSB.

I have seen a few E2xxx's get up near 460mhz FSB.. so it has to do a lot with the cpu. For me, I own a 2200, 2180 and a 2160.. all of which are running 3-3.3ghz between 380-420mhz FSB. Keeping the vcore below 1.5v and raising the FSB/VTT/PLLv [whatever it is called in your BIOS] helped me to keep the cpu stable at the higher FSB's.

Highest recorded boot, was 3.7ghz on my e2200.. it needed to be on water to keep temps under 60c and keep things stable.
sb i/o
sb core
have i leave this two things at default voltage
i can and tried keep fsb vtt :auto
but there's no auto option for nb

what you meant by the first paragraph "?
it depends on multi and the amount it lowerd
375x8=3000
333x9=3000
the first 1500 rated fsb
second 1333 rated fsb

42 mhz between to multipliers
sure higher is better but worse nb voltage + nb heat
3.7 great with stability + less than 60 keep going
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thx for fast response i will try that
but first of all what meant by fsb hole
is that cpu limit ? or mobo or even nb
how to fix that ?
thanks in advance ....
Sorry for the long delay.

Most FSB walls in the range we are talking about are properties of the CPU, and there is no way around them, except maybe extreme cooling (well below ambient) and/or extreme voltage.

My motherboard is capable of 550-600MHz FSB. My best E2140 can do 420MHz FSB and my other E2140 is limited to 380MHz, on the same board.
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Sorry for the long delay.

Most FSB walls in the range we are talking about are properties of the CPU, and there is no way around them, except maybe extreme cooling (well below ambient) and/or extreme voltage.

My motherboard is capable of 550-600MHz FSB. My best E2140 can do 420MHz FSB and my other E2140 is limited to 380MHz, on the same board.
thanks
no problems ? Take your Time while response

fsb wall=fsb hole ??
ok can i ask small question ?
how can some sites show the max worked fsb in mobo's reviews
i mean what cpu they used to test
the way over fsb wall is high voltage + extreme cooling below ambient ?
seems hard way not worth it
420 nice what vcore increasement than vid ?
if i could play an game for 20 minute orthos 1 seconds stable only
then bsod in that game is that ok i forget what clock speed was
but a bit high higher than 3.2 but i am a bit confused uping the vcore than 1.5250 in bios because of my bad hsf maybe not dual core complateable because it's very old
what about getting g0 reversion of e2160 ? is it nice overclockable does it worth getting it for overclocking purpose ? because it's reaching high fsb's with lower vcores
sorry for my long post
thanks in advance
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