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not really, just because the card boost big numbers doesn't always mean real world performance, like the 9800X2 and the GTX280

nice to see it though, looks like a 12 incher
Judging from the HD4850, two of these will make a GTX280 look like a TNT2...
    
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post #52 of 72
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You saw a little of that with the 3870X2, but the bridge was a simple PCIe switch. The real magic this time is a bridge that shares memory, GDDR5 in this case. Yup, you will have 2 GPUs with one set of memory.
This simplifies designs, lowers chip cost, and speeds time to market. You get two full variants for the design cost of 1.25, and you are on the happy end of the cost/area curve for fabbing silicon. While the early word on GT200 is that it is again 500mm^2+, ATI will have 2x chips that are much smaller, which translates into a huge cost advantage.
The other nice thing is that the bridge should keep the GPUs hidden from the system. This has a disadvantage of hard-wiring in the Crossfire modes leaving a little performance on the table, but when you have two of them in the system, it looks like two GPUs, not four. One look at the 1 -> 2 -> 4 scaling rates will show what a win that is.
so.. if thats true... in theory, with 2 XFire connectors, one would be able to run 4 X2's for a total of 8 GPUs?
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Judging from the HD4850, two of these will make a GTX280 look like a TNT2...
yeh and hopefully at alot less on the wallet ..
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so.. if thats true... in theory, with 2 XFire connectors, one would be able to run 4 X2's for a total of 8 GPUs?
There was a rumor of 'octo crossfire' being in the works, but seeing as this card has just one connector I guess we can bury that safe and sound.
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post #55 of 72
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There was a rumor of 'octo crossfire' being in the works, but seeing as this card has just one connector I guess we can bury that safe and sound.
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so.. if thats true... in theory, with 2 XFire connectors, one would be able to run 4 X2's for a total of 8 GPUs?
CFX is limited to four GPUs. Vista is limited to four GPUs, you won't see four GPUs in CFX or SLI in Vista. Maybe Windows Seven though
post #56 of 72
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Originally Posted by iandh View Post
Posts 1 year ago about ATI dying = laffola

This card will be beastly.

BLACK PCB!!! THANK YOU!

ATI red is nice and all, but I am a black pcb type of guy. I can only pray that at least one OEM will offer this color in the US, or that it will be the default color. If they make this card with a black PCB, I will sell a kidney.
Thats not the PCB, the card has a extra black plastic backplate to make sure it doesn't snap. Look closer.
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Thats not the PCB, the card has a extra black plastic backplate to make sure it doesn't snap. Look closer.
The card's PCB and backplate are both black. Look closer.
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CFX is limited to four GPUs. Vista is limited to four GPUs, you won't see four GPUs in CFX or SLI in Vista. Maybe Windows Seven though
But if they did the MCM/shared memory thing and made two GPUs appear as one to the end user.. Possible.

I guess the single CF connector is the death to those rumors.
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post #59 of 72
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CFX is limited to four GPUs. Vista is limited to four GPUs, you won't see four GPUs in CFX or SLI in Vista. Maybe Windows Seven though
The thing is though, thanks to the bridge chip, 8 GPU's looks like 4 GPUs to the OS, the bridge chip gets Two GPU's and works the CF through the Hardware for them, then to get QuadFire with two HD4870x2's, it will look like two GPU's to the OS, BIOS, etc, even though its four.


Its the opposite to how HT on the P4's works, kinda.

Instead of it being one core, with HT seen as two to the OS, its two GPU's, seen as one to the OS, the chip does all the communioncations between the two GPUs, then the third/Forth GPU is using the normal CF connection.



I wouldn't be suprised if ATI is testing Octofire in its labs on Vista now.
    
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I am so excited. It's such a wonderful time to be a enthusiast.
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