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In terms of crossfire most ppl forget that if a game supports it, it's going to use more memory because its going to use more power as a result. Power + performance needs more memory and for high resolutions 512mb isn't enough.
Dude ... seriously ...

Some of what you've said here has been reasonably accurate, but a comment like this makes it look like those were just coincidences ...
    
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And again, I must ask why you automatically think he was talking about Crossfire when Crossfire was not mentioned in any way, and I don't see it written anywhere that this GPU SKU is only for Crossfire. Many people think that bus width limits the amount of RAM useable by the graphics card when that is not the case. In fact, all of your posts suggest that the 1GB of memory is useful when it is in Crossfire furthers this misconception by implying that this card is specifically for that. It doesn't make sense for him to have been talking about Crossfire anyway, and even if he were, Modki's original post was still confusingly written.

After reading that I want to beat my head against a brick wall repeatedly.
I don't know why you are getting seemingly all upset about it. No one assumes he was talking about CF. He thought that the 1GB wouldn't be used, and explained that it would be, despite the 256bit bus (which many people correlate to the amount of memory that you can use). It was also further explained that although you can use the memory in any circumstance, it would be most beneficial in CF where the cards memory is not doubled and in high resolution gaming.

Not that complicated. Save your head for another day.
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I don't know why you are getting seemingly all upset about it. No one assumes he was talking about CF. He thought that the 1GB wouldn't be used, and explained that it would be, despite the 256bit bus (which many people correlate to the amount of memory that you can use). It was also further explained that although you can use the memory in any circumstance, it would be most beneficial in CF where the cards memory is not doubled and in high resolution gaming.

Not that complicated. Save your head for another day.
I already said I understand how it works, so you are wasting you time explaining it. That was not the source of my quarrel.
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All I'm going to say is, nVidia can't keep the lid on ATi anymore. ATi will hit back hard with their 48xx series. Announcing the 9800GTX+ right after 4850 launches is hard evidence that nVidia acknowledges the 9800GTX cannot compete with ATi's mid-range 4850.

As the 48xx series driver matures, we'll see more performance from this mid-range card.
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All I'm going to say is, nVidia can't keep the lid on ATi anymore. ATi will hit back hard with their 48xx series. Announcing the 9800GTX+ right after 4850 launches is hard evidence that nVidia acknowledges the 9800GTX cannot compete with ATi's mid-range 4850.

As the 48xx series driver matures, we'll see more performance from this mid-range card.
Launching a 55nm 9800GTX is also good evidence that Nvidia is fairly agile, willing to compete, and not quite in as high of orbit as I originally suspected.

If I do upgrade my video card, choosing between the 9800GTX+ and the 4850 / 4870 will be a difficult choice. It will most likely come down to price, vendor warranty, do I want to go multi-GPU, support for OpenGL 2.1, and whether the support of PhysX or Havok benifits me most.

Right now I think that the 4850 is one hell of a card, but the 9800GTX+ is going to be just as good.

Honestly I think in the single card department the 9800GTX+ will be better, in the multi card department the 4850 will be better. This of course all depends on how the prices settle and what becomes of the glorius 8800GT.
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Launching a 55nm 9800GTX is also good evidence that Nvidia is fairly agile, willing to compete, and not quite in as high of orbit as I originally suspected.

If I do upgrade my video card, choosing between the 9800GTX+ and the 4850 / 4870 will be a difficult choice. It will most likely come down to price, vendor warranty, do I want to go multi-GPU, support for OpenGL 2.1, and whether the support of PhysX or Havok benifits me most.

Right now I think that the 4850 is one hell of a card, but the 9800GTX+ is going to be just as good.

Honestly I think in the single card department the 9800GTX+ will be better, in the multi card department the 4850 will be better. This of course all depends on how the prices settle and what becomes of the glorius 8800GT.
Isn't NVidia forcing their retailers to keep the prices static? If that's true then the 4850 will go down in price and the 9800GTX+ won't. Great idea to get a second or third 4850 down the road
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Isn't NVidia forcing their retailers to keep the prices static? If that's true then the 4850 will go down in price and the 9800GTX+ won't. Great idea to get a second or third 4850 down the road
I don't know if you noticed or not but the price of the Nvidia cards definitely isn't static. It just happens to be you have to click "Price in cart". Oh the agony.
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Isn't NVidia forcing their retailers to keep the prices static? If that's true then the 4850 will go down in price and the 9800GTX+ won't. Great idea to get a second or third 4850 down the road
They are forcing retailers to either keep the price at or above a certain point or forcing them to only display the price in cart if it is below that certain price.
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I don't know if you noticed or not but the price of the Nvidia cards definitely isn't static. It just happens to be you have to click "Price in cart". Oh the agony.
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They are forcing retailers to either keep the price at or above a certain point or forcing them to only display the price in cart if it is below that certain price.
I haven't been shopping for any NVidia cards lately, I didn't know
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No think about this.

Crossfire doe not combine memory, therefore 1GB+1GB in CF is only 1GB. Making 1GB models the choice for Crossfire.

huh? 1+1=1? *** i thought i was 3
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