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This can't be possible. That handsome guy from the commercial convinced me I was safe.
LOL!
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post #22 of 44
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Wasn't OSX hacked via 1st party program - safari? I believe it was Vista that was hacked through Adobe Flash. Pwn2Own was the official name of the competition.
I was never reffering to that.

Im saying Adobe is a pos company with so many security flaws in their flash/reader, its amazing.

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Does it really matter if it's a virus or a trojan? The bottom line is that, because of their advertising, Apple has convinced the average Joe that they are invincible when they never really were (as Chipp pointed out).

Most Trojans enter a system through third party software. If Apple were to tighten the leash even more on devs, surely even less people would go Mac. They really better think hard about the next decade or so.
Yeah, it does, because a virus is not equal to a trojan.

And here, how many times do you hear about a Mac getting completely compromised compared to a windows machine?

How many viruses do you hear about mac's getting?

Thats my point. Mac's do NOT get actual viruses. They have malware, yeah, but EVEN Linux can get malware if your not careful.

Its not entirely about market share, unlike what alot of you wish to beleive. It also comes down to the OS. Linux and OSX are based off of Unix, which that alone provides a step up in security compared to the windows; specifically the NT kernel.

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Excellent, finally all the college students who buy macs to fight the "microsoft MAN" will see that their precious isn't any safer.
By any safer, are you talking about the number of trojans??..

Last I checked, OSX didnt have any viruses, and the amount of malware was alot less than Windows...
Edited by Lelouch - 6/20/08 at 2:10pm
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I'm just waiting for marin or gunner to come in here and try to reverse this as a good thing.
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Originally Posted by CapDubOh View Post
It was Safari, look it up.

EDIT : SOURCE SOURCE
Hum, must be mixing up stories then. I can swear the earlier articles said something about quicktime. Was it quicktime for Vista that dropped? (Edit: Just looked at the article and it was Flash for Vista. I really don't know where I saw it, but I can swear that there was some huge security flaw with Quicktime in OS X. Yep, found it here. Just had random flaws mixed around!)

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How did you know I wear panties?!...and that they're all bunched up?! Forget the Internet, I'm afraid of you!
Eeek! But what if--I AM THE INTERNET! I'm not sure how that works--you just believe.

EDIT some more: Also, just an additional note... From what I read on the Macrumors forums, you are essentially asked twice about running anything you download off the net--and I know it's not BS. For instance, when I DL'd firefox, it warned me when I first opened it saying that I had gotten this online and to be careful. Then it warned me again when I installed it, and I had to type in my password. I think I also had to do this for a zip file with some ipod utility thing I downloaded. So--if you are downloading things from a reputable source, all should be well.
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So--if you are downloading things from a reputable source, all should be well.
This is the human race we are talking about. To the average user, Lime wire is a reputable source. Just like Fox News is a reputable news source that does not take sides on political issues. Just as reputable as me telling you Dolly Parton's rack is real and home grown on the range. Silicon valley range that is.
    
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But hey, you can all get your jollies by saying 'lol mac has exploits.." But they always have, and they are still more secure than a windows machine.
I disagree and so do most reputable security firms. Windows Vista is pretty damn effective against security threats, especially UAC.

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I was never reffering to that.

Im saying Adobe is a pos company with so many security flaws in their flash/reader, its amazing.



Yeah, it does, because a virus is not equal to a trojan.

And here, how many times do you hear about a Mac getting completely compromised compared to a windows machine?

How many viruses do you hear about mac's getting?

Thats my point. Mac's do NOT get actual viruses. They have malware, yeah, but EVEN Linux can get malware if your not careful.

Its not entirely about market share, unlike what alot of you wish to beleive. It also comes down to the OS. Linux and OSX are based off of Unix, which that alone provides a step up in security compared to the windows; specifically the NT kernel.



By any safer, are you talking about the number of trojans??..

Last I checked, OSX didnt have any viruses, and the amount of malware was alot less than Windows...
Call it what you want, if it does nasty things to your computer and or steals your personal information it is a virus.
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I'm just waiting for marin or gunner to come in here and try to reverse this as a good thing.
I've been following this thread since the beginning. You've been waiting for me to come in here, but I've been waiting for someone to call me out

I don't care to discuss this with you guys because all I see are idiots who have never used this OS trolling on and on about it. That's about what it boils down to...
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But what about the Apple ads on cnn.com that claim that OSX is "The Worlds Most Advanced OS"?

My faith in humanity is shattered.

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I love how everyone is calling out Apple because it has a trojan, which the user has to open and run manually. Wow, big security exploit! A system is only as secure as its users.

Flame on.
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I disagree and so do most reputable security firms. Windows Vista is pretty damn effective against security threats, especially UAC.



Call it what you want, if it does nasty things to your computer and or steals your personal information it is a virus.
And that is where you are WRONG. A virus is a peice of malicious code that SELF replicates itself.

This does not do that, nor does it do anything close; therefore it is not a virus. If you want more proof, pop up good ol' google and research what a computer virus is
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