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You don't get ghosting with CRT's, which can be very annoying in gaming or watching movies. If CRT's weren't so big, I would've never bought a LCD.
I had ghosting at one point with an LCD, but it was resolved after using a different VGA cable. Ghosting is pretty rare.
 
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I had ghosting at one point with an LCD, but it was resolved after using a different VGA cable. Ghosting is pretty rare.
My LCD ghosts, tears, doesn't display blacks like it should, etc.

I think it's time for me to switch back to CRT.
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post #13 of 32
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Originally Posted by ImmortalKenny View Post
My LCD ghosts, tears, doesn't display blacks like it should, etc.

I think it's time for me to switch back to CRT.
are you serious? what brand, Optiquest? there is your problem right there.

get a Samsung. I've also heard good things about Viewsonic and Acer.

I went from a 17" CRT to a 19" LCD and now to a 22" Wide LCD. I will never in my life ever go back to a CRT.
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I got a acer and I just played some COD 4 and I had no ghosting at all.
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not to toot my own horn or anything but check my sig, there is a guide for TV tech there. Let me know any critique's you all may have. It really all depends on what you want to use it for. Like everyone said here, color reproduction is far superior in CRT.
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@Kenny: Or get another LCD.

I have a samsung LCD and much prefer it over the CRT I used to use. I find the images to be sharper and I have no ghosting. Additionally, LCD's are not affected by magnetic interference the way CRT's can be.
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post #17 of 32
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@Kenny: Or get another LCD.

I have a samsung LCD and much prefer it over the CRT I used to use. I find the images to be sharper and I have no ghosting. Additionally, LCD's are not affected by magnetic interference the way CRT's can be.
The only bad thing about CRT's, despite their size.
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capable of higher resolutions, digital input
Actually, my old 17" budget Samsung can do 1920x1200 while this LCD only gos up to 1680x1050.

Newer CRTs were also capable of digital input.

As for better color, I can't agree. If you bought a 17" CRT back then that cost as much as a 22" today, then the LCDs have much better color. At least that's how it is in my case.

The LCD also has a [HUGELY] noticeably sharper image. Looking at text and images really shows the blurryness.

CRTs are generally more saturated, but newer LCD colors look much better.
On the other hand, a new-ish CRT vs a new LCD, the CRT wins by tons.

I use my 17incher for watching TV (via a tuner), since Israel is still using crappy SD and watching it on a LCD stretches it to no end and makes it really ugly.
On the CRT I can go full screen and have "natural" stretching, not digital resizing (by using a low resolution on the screen).


The major advantages LCDs have over CRTs is the lack of flicker, the weight, and like said above, being resistant to magnetic interference.
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post #19 of 32
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Power consumption, no refreshing, and size are the big advantages of LCDs.

CRTs did hold a lead over color reproduction and still beats LCDs in blacks. However, LCD is catching up on these two.
Yes LCDs dont "refresh" in the way that CRTs do, but they do have to poll the interface to read the video card output. And they all do so at 60Hz.

So to eliminate ghosting, the response time of the pixels (both on-to-off and GTG) must be faster than the polling rate. You gotta watch out too though, all the current "4ms" (or whatever) LCDs are all rated in GTG, which means that the true response time is actually higher, probably around 8ms.


Anyway, to answer the main question - there are advantages and disadvantages to both.

CRTs:
- Up to ~120Hz refresh rate (compared to 60Hz polling on LCDs)
- Better black levels
- Better contrast
- Higher max resolution
- No ghosting
- Longer lifespan
- Susceptible to EMF/magnetic interference
- Only the best and most expensive CRTs have pictures as clear as LCDs

LCDs:
- Sharper picture
- Smaller footprint
- Lighter to carry
- Less damaging to eyes
- No interference
- You cen either get an excellent contrast ratio or excellent response time, but to get both at once costs lots of $$

So generally, for games/movies - where the picture matters the most - CRTs are much better than LCDs. But for office type work, LCDs are better because of their sharper image.
Edited by Manyak - 6/20/08 at 10:42am
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post #20 of 32
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Guess ill keep my Compaq 22" 1920x1400 (about) until it warps so bad i cant play XD
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