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Poll Results: Which upgrade should I get?

 
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    CoolIt Freezone Elite CPU Cooler (Stylish Peltier Cooling!)
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    GTX 280 (involves selling my current 8800GT)
  • 41% (21)
    Another 8800GT (Don't think it scales well @ 24")
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post #61 of 76
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Originally Posted by Danylu View Post
Does anyone have a date for the 4870x2 or the GT200b? I can't find one.
GT200b is scheduled for late September release, the HD4870x2 is being released July 14th with availability by the following week.
post #62 of 76
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TEC w/cing doesn't perform well for the price, it's only a little bit better than regular w/cing. If you want it to be quite, buy a PA120.3 and three Sythe S-Flex fans. Use a D-Tek Fusion for the CPU. It'll be more than enough to cool it, and it will be very very quiet.
I second that; you can't beat the performance of the PA120.3 radiator, and the the S-Flex fans move a ton of air at low speeds (D or E models?) so they are wicked quiet (silentfan. That radiator with those fans will cool anything just short of a nuclear reactor... almost

I'm in much the same boat, except I already have 2 8800 GT 512mb in SLI (ASUS P5n32-e SLI) with Q6600 core on a 42" Samsung LCD. I was thinking about getting the HD 4870 or selling off my mobo and cards to go HD 4850 CF, but the gains at 1900x1020 w candy are minimal from what I can tell from the current reviews. Plus the heat and power consumption of the ATI cards in CF is higher than the 8800 GT SLI, which is a real deal killer given the prices of energy in the Northeast (USA).

I have eight hundred bucks burning a hole in my pocket and I came to the conclusion that although I am dying to upgrade, I can't pull the trigger because I see it this way (and I could be wrong):
  1. With a couple more cards coming out, the prices on the cream of the crop cards are still just too high.
  2. The price drop in the 8800 GT cards and their performance in SLI make them a sweet spot in the current market. Although they cost a little more than the ATI cards, they perform a little better too in SLI. Tjat could change if ATI figures out drivers, but so far, WIC, Crysis, COD4, Witcher, etc. have been holding pretty steady on SLI beating CF.
  3. Said price drop makes selling the old equipment less profitable; while it might be the best time to "unload" the SLI equipment, the performance gains don't justify it.
  4. New core coming out in 6 months or so...that deters me from any upgrades that require a new motherboard.
  5. Energy usage for ATI cards is too extreme in CF. Granted, there's extra money in the budget for pumped up cooling, but if the extra cooling isn't going to get the same performance as spending the same amount of money on a top-tier NVIDIA card, what's the point? Plus, the extra cooling add to the energy consumption profile.
the drivers are just too new to accurately gauge the value of CF upgrading.

I can't pull the trigger on anything other than cooling for my system, but I already have the 2nd 8800 GT. Since that would be a short money upgrade for you, I'd recommend it to tide you over until the new cores/mobos come out. If upgrade-ability is your primary concern, and you want to get the most out of your money (even though price is no object) then get the 8800 GT, get the best cooling you can (PA120.3) and wait for the Neph to come out.

If blowing lots of money is your goal, get the highest tier NVIDIA cards possible, tri-SLI 'em (even if it isn't possible yet...just because it's the ballin'-est thing you can do), get an air-conditioner for your case, purchase a huge LCD tv and get your game on in a very expensive way.
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post #63 of 76
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I second that; you can't beat the performance of the PA120.3 radiator, and the the S-Flex fans move a ton of air at low speeds (D or E models?) so they are wicked quiet (silentfan. That radiator with those fans will cool anything just short of a nuclear reactor... almost

I'm in much the same boat, except I already have 2 8800 GT 512mb in SLI (ASUS P5n32-e SLI) with Q6600 core on a 42" Samsung LCD. I was thinking about getting the HD 4870 or selling off my mobo and cards to go HD 4850 CF, but the gains at 1900x1020 w candy are minimal from what I can tell from the current reviews. Plus the heat and power consumption of the ATI cards in CF is higher than the 8800 GT SLI, which is a real deal killer given the prices of energy in the Northeast (USA).

I have eight hundred bucks burning a hole in my pocket and I came to the conclusion that although I am dying to upgrade, I can't pull the trigger because I see it this way (and I could be wrong):
  1. With a couple more cards coming out, the prices on the cream of the crop cards are still just too high.
  2. The price drop in the 8800 GT cards and their performance in SLI make them a sweet spot in the current market. Although they cost a little more than the ATI cards, they perform a little better too in SLI. Tjat could change if ATI figures out drivers, but so far, WIC, Crysis, COD4, Witcher, etc. have been holding pretty steady on SLI beating CF.
  3. Said price drop makes selling the old equipment less profitable; while it might be the best time to "unload" the SLI equipment, the performance gains don't justify it.
  4. New core coming out in 6 months or so...that deters me from any upgrades that require a new motherboard.
  5. Energy usage for ATI cards is too extreme in CF. Granted, there's extra money in the budget for pumped up cooling, but if the extra cooling isn't going to get the same performance as spending the same amount of money on a top-tier NVIDIA card, what's the point? Plus, the extra cooling add to the energy consumption profile.
the drivers are just too new to accurately gauge the value of CF upgrading.

I can't pull the trigger on anything other than cooling for my system, but I already have the 2nd 8800 GT. Since that would be a short money upgrade for you, I'd recommend it to tide you over until the new cores/mobos come out. If upgrade-ability is your primary concern, and you want to get the most out of your money (even though price is no object) then get the 8800 GT, get the best cooling you can (PA120.3) and wait for the Neph to come out.

If blowing lots of money is your goal, get the highest tier NVIDIA cards possible, tri-SLI 'em (even if it isn't possible yet...just because it's the ballin'-est thing you can do), get an air-conditioner for your case, purchase a huge LCD tv and get your game on in a very expensive way.
Thanks!

Reps passed out to the many people who helped!

Interesting but I have no idea about watercooling .

Another thing is that I have thought for the last few days about potential upgrades and out of the blue other matters that require attention to have popped up so I probably won't be getting another major upgrade until perhaps Christmas so yeah, thanks for helping!
    
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post #64 of 76
Sorry if Im hijacking this thread, but I have a similar problem, i have no idea what should i upgrade next.
I just got my new 24" lcd and it's using 1980x1200 resolution.

Should I go for SLI with another 8800GT oc. edition or get a AMD X4 Phenom 9850.
My current motherboard supports SLI but it has got one 16xPCIE and 8X PCIE.
The differnece between 16x and 8x shouldent be really big right ?
If I would get another 8800GT im afraid my cpu might bottleneck.
So what should I do ? Please help


And please don't tell me to buy the new ATI 4800series(not really ati fanboy).
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post #65 of 76
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Originally Posted by Lennard View Post
Sorry if Im hijacking this thread, but I have a similar problem, i have no idea what should i upgrade next.
I just got my new 24" lcd and it's using 1980x1200 resolution.

Should I go for SLI with another 8800GT oc. edition or get a AMD X4 Phenom 9850.
My current motherboard supports SLI but it has got one 16xPCIE and 8X PCIE.
The differnece between 16x and 8x shouldent be really big right ?
If I would get another 8800GT im afraid my cpu might bottleneck.
So what should I do ? Please help


And please don't tell me to buy the new ATI 4800series(not really ati fanboy).
If you can get to 3.5 on your 5600, then get another 8800GT. Otherwise you will bottleneck slightly.
post #66 of 76
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Don't worry about hijacking this thread, all posts are welcome!

I think you should get another 8800GT, 3.1Ghz bottles games even with 1 8800GT in CoD4. I think you should be able to overclock it more though.
    
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well I did manage to overclock it to 3.3GHz, i just increased voltage and fsb. But the computer started giving errors and games crashed all the time.Altough I had HT set 5x, maybe set it this time 4x ?

Oh and when im increasing the fsb, should i put my ram timing little bit more higher ? I currently have 4-4-4-15(stock). Or should i force 800mhz to 600mhz from bios ?

I think someone mananged to pull out 3,4GHz from 5600+, but he had like deadly voltages and watercooling.
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well I did manage to overclock it to 3.3GHz, i just increased voltage and fsb. But the computer started giving errors and games crashed all the time.Altough I had HT set 5x, maybe set it this time 4x ?

Oh and when im increasing the fsb, should i put my ram timing little bit more higher ? I currently have 4-4-4-15(stock). Or should i force 800mhz to 600mhz from bios ?

I think someone mananged to pull out 3,4GHz from 5600+, but he had like deadly voltages and watercooling.
ok... just wondering but why is everything bold???

To answer your Qs, don't force memory speeds down yet, loosen timings to say... 5-5-5-20 and try again, what temps do you get btw with that cooler?


Currently from the PREviews I have read... The R7700 is anywhere from same performance to a GTX280 to about 25% and drivers still need to be released. GTX280 SLI is similar to the R770, maybe the GT200b will absolutely kick its butt though.
Edited by Danylu - 7/14/08 at 2:51am
    
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post #69 of 76
hehe,I like bold font but ok.

I just saw that the prices have dropped from the shop where i was about to order. I should be able to buy phenom 9850 BE, 2gb ocz reaper ram and the second 8800gt now.
I hope my psu will hold on. Been cheking psu calculators and information. Calculators show me 486 watts will be used when gaming.
i got two v12 rails total 36A, It should be minimum for 8800gt sli right ?
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post #70 of 76
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hehe,I like bold font but ok.

I just saw that the prices have dropped from the shop where i was about to order. I should be able to buy phenom 9850 BE, 2gb ocz reaper ram and the second 8800gt now.
I hope my psu will hold on. Been cheking psu calculators and information. Calculators show me 486 watts will be used when gaming.
i got two v12 rails total 36A, It should be minimum for 8800gt sli right ?
How efficient is your power-supply? I usually only consider psu calculators as being accurate to the 100 so if you have a spare psu somewhere in your house, this is a way to test if your psu holds out:
1. With everything installed and overclocked etc... loop a benchmark such as '06 or Vantage 3 times and log scores.
2. Plug the 2nd 8800GT into a separate PSU and loop the benchmark again and see if there is a huge difference in scores.
    
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