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Hello, I've been lurking around here for a short time, and now need some help with a new build. This will be my first Windows computer in quite some time, and its been about 10 years since I've built a computer, so I'm being extra careful and asking for advice everywhere I can. I have read through most of the other threads concerning new builds, drawn some conclusions and come out with this for my budget of up to 1200-1500 USD. Keep in mind, I need everything - from a new case, psu to a monitor, keyboard, etc... Oh, alsmost forgot this is being built entirely for gaming, although I'd like to stay with Quad core instead of Dual Core. Thanks in advance for any advice you may offer!

The Build so far. (for Gaming if the above was too long, $1200-1500).

CPU:
Q6600 - $200 or
Q9300 - $266

I've heard the Q6600 may OC better?

Mobo:
Asus P5Q Core 2 Extreme p45 (1600) - $150 or
P5Q Pro LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX w/ heat-pipes - 150$

Are heatpipes useful or just noob gadgetry? Is there a better board that would have more longevity, or just a better board in general?

GPU:
Evga GeForce 8800GTS (G92) KO 512MB 256bit - $260 or
Evga GeForce 9800GTX Superclocked 512MB 256 bit - $199

I've seen arguments for both, but many regarded the 9800 not being a worthy upgrade, and hinged on the 9800 being more expensive. It's cheaper... is it the better buy now? Pretty clueless in this department.

PSU:
Enermax Modu82+ EMD625AWT 625W - $190 or
Corsair CMPSU-620HX 620W - $140

RAM:
G.skill 4GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1000 (PC2 8000) - $85

Is DDR3 worth trying to go for a more expensive setup? Would a mobo capable of supporting both be worthwhile for a future upgrade?

HD:
Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD5000AAKS 500 GB 7200rpm SATA 3.0Gb/s - $80

Is this a good reliable and fast Hard Drive?

OS:
Microsoft Vista Ultimate Sp1 64bit - $180

Would love a link to a cheaper Vista 64 bit...

Monitor:
Acer 20in - $200 or
Asus 22in - $260 or
Acer 22in - $240

I'll probably buy the monitor in person, but any brands/models you may recommend?

Case:
Antec 900 Black Steel - $120

I keep hearing about Lian-Li or Silverstone but want one that has good ventilation, a solid build, and a relatively inexpensive price. From what I've seen Lian-Li's and Silverstones seem to be pricier than others. They look sturdier, but don't look like they have as many vents? Perhaps its just bad internet pictures.... This is another area I'm wide open to suggestions (well, I am for everything - but even more so here).

Cooling:
Umm... what do I get? I would like air cooling, as I'm just starting out, and it seems cheaper than WC and less intimidating. I've heard some name brands thrown around, what would you recommend? Do I need extra fans for the case? Can these just be the cheaper ones or are there particular brands to look for here as well?

TOTAL: $1355 - $1591

Now this has come to something on the pricier side of what I was looking for, but this doesn't include rebates or any deals. I'm looking to err on the side of quality and upgradability, but am still on a budget. Thanks again for any advice! Also - Most important - Is this all compatible?

~TkH
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Q6600 Asus P5E3 Deluxe Wifi Asus HD 4850 4GB OCZ Gold DDR3 1333 
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Seagate Barracuda 500GB Samsung 20x Vista SP1 Ultimate 64 bit Acer 22" 
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post #2 of 8
Looks like you got most of the stuff figured correctly. Processor wise, take the Q6600 over the Q9300 any day if you are going to be overclocking. The Q9300 has too low of a multiplier to really make it effective.

As for the board, if you aren't going to SLI, I recommend the DFI Lanparty DK P35 T2RS. It's a little bit cheaper than the two you have picked out and is extremely good overclocker.

I'd say the Corsair is an awesome PSU.

RAM is perfect.

Hard drive is awesome too. The only other HD I would reccomend is the Seagate Barracuda 7200.11.

OS- Can't help you with the price, sorry.

Case- Great choice. I would definitely recommend. Never heard a bad review about it.

Cooling- The Xigmatek HDT-S1283 would be your best budget cooler. A TRUE or Tuniq Tower would be a better expensive route.

As for graphics cards, don't count out the ATI 4850 because it is on par with the 9800GTX and a little bit cheaper. (170$ after MIR) Another route would be to wait for the 9800GTX+ or the 4870 because both are supposed to be monster cards.

Other than that, good luck with your build!
    
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Awesome, thanks for the quick reply and great advice! I am considering going SLI or Crossfire once I get the initial build stable and save up a bit of cash for some expansions. Is there any considerable differences to consider? Or a link where I could read up more on it?

Regarding GPUs - I'm pretty clueless to be honest. What should I be considering to compare the two? Is it just misinformation that Nvidia is more supported overall? Very well could be - like I've mentioned plenty before, I'm just returning to the PC world after a considerable break. Thanks again though! Doubtless I'll be back with plenty of questions once I get this all up and running!

~TkH
So far so good
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Q6600 Asus P5E3 Deluxe Wifi Asus HD 4850 4GB OCZ Gold DDR3 1333 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
Seagate Barracuda 500GB Samsung 20x Vista SP1 Ultimate 64 bit Acer 22" 
PowerCase
Corsair 750 Watt Antec 900 
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Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
Seagate Barracuda 500GB Samsung 20x Vista SP1 Ultimate 64 bit Acer 22" 
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Awesome, thanks for the quick reply and great advice! I am considering going SLI or Crossfire once I get the initial build stable and save up a bit of cash for some expansions. Is there any considerable differences to consider? Or a link where I could read up more on it?

Regarding GPUs - I'm pretty clueless to be honest. What should I be considering to compare the two? Is it just misinformation that Nvidia is more supported overall? Very well could be - like I've mentioned plenty before, I'm just returning to the PC world after a considerable break. Thanks again though! Doubtless I'll be back with plenty of questions once I get this all up and running!

~TkH
Well in order to Crossfire or SLI, we would need to pick you out a different mobo because this one only has room for 1 PCI Express x16 slot, and you need two to crossfire or SLI.

As for links to read up on i'll try to dig up a few in a bit.

And for GPU's, Nvidia was supported more overall until these past few days when they released the 4850 which is a very nice card for a very good price. Also, a lot is expected from the release of the 4870 which should hopefully compete with Nvidia's top cards and be quite a bit cheaper.

I honestly am not the person to go for for advice about SLI and Crossfire because I have never done it, so hopefully another OCN'er will come help out. Anyway, Welcome back to the PC world!
    
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Hmm, for some reason I had thought I had selected an SLI ready board - I must've gotten all my boards confused and settled on one that wasnt ready for that. Oh well, still an option - but I may need to go rebrowse motherboards!

Perhaps I'll start a thread in the GPU section of OCN for more advice on SLI/Crossfire as well as dig around for more information - Finding it isn't the big problem, its just that there's so much! Haha, anyways, thanks again, I'll be stepping out for a few, but would love more input on my proposed setup from any other OCNrs.

~TkH
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Q6600 Asus P5E3 Deluxe Wifi Asus HD 4850 4GB OCZ Gold DDR3 1333 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
Seagate Barracuda 500GB Samsung 20x Vista SP1 Ultimate 64 bit Acer 22" 
PowerCase
Corsair 750 Watt Antec 900 
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Q6600 Asus P5E3 Deluxe Wifi Asus HD 4850 4GB OCZ Gold DDR3 1333 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
Seagate Barracuda 500GB Samsung 20x Vista SP1 Ultimate 64 bit Acer 22" 
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Your right, the Mobo I had selected for you didn't have Crossfire or SLI. The mobo's you picked did. My fault on that.
    
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Hmm, well I'm guessing from the lack of other replies everything is in order! Thanks again for the help BHS, I'll let you know what I ended up getting and putting together once I get it built! Then I can begin the OCing... hehe.

~TkH
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Q6600 Asus P5E3 Deluxe Wifi Asus HD 4850 4GB OCZ Gold DDR3 1333 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
Seagate Barracuda 500GB Samsung 20x Vista SP1 Ultimate 64 bit Acer 22" 
PowerCase
Corsair 750 Watt Antec 900 
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Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
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Ha. No problem. If your still needing help do a little research in the GPU thread areas. Tons of information there.
    
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