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[NY Times] HDTV-Makers must include enhancments.

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While many Americans have yet to buy their first high-definition television, a new report from DisplaySearch, a consumer electronics research firm, warns the industry that if it wants to keep improving HDTV sales, it will need to quickly install some features that are now extra-cost add-ons available only in high-end models.


Built-in Internet access, 1080p resolution, PVR capabilities and upgraded HDMI connection standards need to become standard fare by next year, the director of research at DisplaySearch, Calvin Hsieh, said. “Our research shows that the growth of the market will peak between 2009 and 2011. Thereafter, growth will be limited without the development of new, enhanced features for TVs,†he said.
Story continues: http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/0...ref=technology


I don't really see why PVR capabilities and internet access is even needed for an HDTV...they're still talking about 1080P which we already have.

Does anyone else give a rats ass about silly add-ons? I'm interested more-so in better picture quality and prices...??
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Edit - misread the article. In any event, I agree with the OP that those features aren't needed. People get the internet through a computer and PVR through either Tivo or their cable provider.
Edited by ElMikeTheMike - 6/22/08 at 2:08am
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Uh huh, yeah. And that PVR costs extra money... kinda kills the point of getting those features for free, since you could just buy a more expensive HDTV that has a PVR.

PVR is nice, Internet is ***.
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Well in my area my cable provider leases them out for $14.95/mo so thats roughly $180.00/yr.

Kinda pricey so I suppose the PVR would be a nice add-on but when you get down to the fact that you're paying what...$1500 - $2000 for an HDTV anyway I don't think you'd have a problem paying $180.00/yr. just for a DVR.

I figure if HDTVs come with these features they'll cost a helluva lot more than their standard HDTV (LoL Double-pun) conterparts
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PVR built into the TV? Who really gives a crap? I'm not even sure that TVs need 1080p, since that's not part of the HDTV standard. Making that be an optional upgrade for the Blu-Ray owners seems to make good business sense to me. Products need differentation between high- and lower-end.

Now the wireless part, I'm way down with. All cables suck, including the beloved HDMI that everyone seems to think is so great. It sucks ass, folks, just like all wires do. Wireless is the future.

And here's something they didn't even mention, which I think is far more important than anything they listed: true digital cable ready functionality. Even the new agreement between the cable industry and TV industry requires a modern Cable Card like device, which is a bunch of crap. I should not have to rent a card from the cable company, pay to have them install it, etc. just to get basic cable on my TV. I don't do it now with my analog sets, but I will be expected to when we go 100% digital and my cable company drops the analog feed through the wire. Set top boxes or Cable Cards everywhere...blah.
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1080p depends on the size of the TV, bigger TV equals bigger resolution, but as of not HD cable is only broadcast @ 720P max. Also the HDMI is important (or at least a DVI port lime mine). PVR? get that from your cable/sat provider. And what is it with Internet capabilities?
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1080p depends on the size of the TV, bigger TV equals bigger resolution, but as of not HD cable is only broadcast @ 720P max. Also the HDMI is important (or at least a DVI port lime mine). PVR? get that from your cable/sat provider. And what is it with Internet capabilities?
No it doesn't. 1080P is 1920x1080. 1080i = 720p = 1366x720. Size has nothing to do with resolution, HOWEVER, some TV panels need to be a minimum size to do 1080P. This is especially true of Plasma screens, minimum size for 1080P is 42" But most large tvs are also 1080P.
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No it doesn't. 1080P is 1920x1080. 1080i = 720p = 1366x720. Size has nothing to do with resolution, HOWEVER, some TV panels need to be a minimum size to do 1080P. This is especially true of Plasma screens, minimum size for 1080P is 42" But most large tvs are also 1080P.
If I have a 32" TV and you have a 50".... and they are the same res. which one do you think will look better?
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No it doesn't. 1080P is 1920x1080. 1080i = 720p = 1366x720. Size has nothing to do with resolution, HOWEVER, some TV panels need to be a minimum size to do 1080P. This is especially true of Plasma screens, minimum size for 1080P is 42" But most large tvs are also 1080P.
Sort of true I guess....for computer monitors the minimum size for 1080p is 24". You're right about the plasmas. LCD's are a different story.

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If I have a 32" TV and you have a 50".... and they are the same res. which one do you think will look better?
Sheer size doesn't determine picture quality. There's a host of other factors to account for.
Edited by ElMikeTheMike - 6/22/08 at 11:37am
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Sheer size doesn't determine picture quality. There's a host of other factors to account for.
true, but it will make a differrence, it's just not the only variable. I'm just stating that it res size will have an effect on quality.
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