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Saw this today too, my friend showed me it. People can already buy icon HD4870 in HK from jumbo computers....
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Saw this today too, my friend showed me it. People can already buy icon HD4870 in HK from jumbo computers....
How? NDA hasn't been lifted on the 4870 yet...
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I was just in honk kong, in may they were telling me at the golden arcade that they would have the cards at the end of june begining of july time frame.
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I was just in honk kong, in may they were telling me at the golden arcade that they would have the cards at the end of june begining of july time frame.
Release date is July 17th isn't it?
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This has already been posted with the same source. The drivers are to blame for the poor performance.
Really? I searched but didn't find anything...

I'm getting really tired of the same ole' drivers saga. It's the drivers causing poor performance, yada yada yada...

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/vid...tecture_2.html

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My understanding of the R600-> R700 architecture is it's amazingly similar and scalable. Why oh why are drivers such a drag for ATI if architecturally speaking, not much has changed? (Not a rhetorical, I'm really asking since I'm not a coder/driver developer or GFX card aficionado)

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Shame the translation is near impossible to make sense of

But performance looks pretty decent
I can read it, what do you want to know? They aren't saying much, just chatting. I don't know why he didn't test Crysis, he just said that that Assault game was basically the same type of performance as Crysis.

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I'll wait until Guru3D's review. I always trust that site the most.
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Why oh why are drivers such a drag for ATI if architecturally speaking, not much has changed? (Not a rhetorical, I'm really asking since I'm not a coder/driver developer or GFX card aficionado)
If I had to guess (and I'm not sure because I don't have a 4850 yet), I would say that because the card released before AMD/ATI expected it to, they didn't put all of the optimizations for the new architecture in the latest Catalyst at the time the cards were being sold.

Also, from what I've seen, it appears as if ATI no longer has an artificial edge in 3dmark performance that doesn't show in real-world games. (In fact for Vantage with the PhysX support, it's actually going to be Nvidia with the higher scores but worse performance.)
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Man, those benchmarks suck balls. I doubt those are realistic scores.
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I'm getting really tired of the same ole' drivers saga. It's the drivers causing poor performance, yada yada yada...

My understanding of the R600-> R700 architecture is it's amazingly similar and scalable. Why oh why are drivers such a drag for ATI if architecturally speaking, not much has changed? (Not a rhetorical, I'm really asking since I'm not a coder/driver developer or GFX card aficionado)
Let me clear up a little confusion first off.
R600 had 320SPs, 16 TMUs and was limited to GDDR4 and GDDR3.
R700 has 800SPs, 40 TMUs and is limited to GDDR3, and GDDR5.
Mostly similar, but all those extra SPs need to be put to work! The only thing that will help that is drivers, which ATI has always been poor when releasing cards initially.
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