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Originally Posted by hargonin View Post
Maybe then music would cease being an industry and resume being an art form?
We might actually get some good music then

And besides, piracy has been here for what? 15 years (at least for as long as I can remember)?
Both music and movie industry don't seem to be affected at all, they still make new movies and new songs are released every day (the only industry that "seems" to be affected by piracy is gaming). As always, they just want more money, that's all.

Back to the actual topic :

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Originally Posted by rx7speed View Post
not quite. in your example there is still only one copy that is just being passed around. in the p2p situation you are replicating and distributing. there is quite the difference there.
Fair enough, how about this:
I made personal copies of my music CD's and put them inside my house (near the front door), but leave the front door open (let's say I was just going to my car and back to get something from the boot or perhaps I just want some fresh air). And while I was not paying attention, someone took the copies from inside my house.
Am I destributing them now? no. The same goes for my share folder; the fact that I actually place them there might just be to copy them somewhere for my own use. If someone else desides to take them from there that's not my problem (well it is in this example, but the blame would be on that person for stealing it, not on me for distributing).
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post #92 of 100
Uh oh it seems everbody is guilty until proved innocent lol..
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Originally Posted by verbatim81973 View Post
I thought u had to have PROOF before u can win a case.
You know, I thought that was an essential part of the justice system. Innocent until proven guilty. I suppose now we are following practices from fascist countries and the middle ages where the sentence is decided regardless of the evidence. Judges need to say "no" to the MPAA and RIAA... those two need to be told to just grow up. Piracy is a problem, but this is the wrong way to stop it.
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The very action of making it accessible is PIRACY.
I don't disagree with you on most of what you said, except that! Show that definition. Please somebody. I want to know a source.

Show me the official definition of piracy.

"Unauthorized reproduction and distribution." I got that from Wikipedia.

Putting it on a share folder isn't distribution... Even if it is intended. Thats just YOUR definition.
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Bunch of nonsense, isn't it?
Its a liability, in fact--I don't feel safe anymore.

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Uh oh it seems everbody is guilty until proved innocent lol..
Yee all repent (which is actually probably thee all repent in translation...but hey...who's watchin?).
    
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^^ GOD

but no, seriously...


n response 2 rx7speed,

those examples r exactly the same thing. if i have digital copy of a cd on my computer and have my computer open 4 sharing then its exactly like having a physical copy sitting on ur coffee table when u have a party at ur house. how should u b liable 4 having some1 steal ur *****?

*****, i just thought of it..... if this somehow gets n2 the law books, then we as consumers can sue the artists cuz they let some1 steal their *****! awesome.

this idea is absurd like the law that allows 4 plain criminals 2 break n2 ur house or whatever, but if they hurt themselves or if by chance u were waiting 4 them 2 come around a corner and u just happened 2 have a pick axe ready and stabbed them n the jugular, they can turn right around and sue u cuz u (or they) hurt them(selves).
    
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What happened to innocent until proven guilty?

I know it sucks when it's so blatantly obvious, like some murder cases (O.J!!!), but it's needed to protect the people who are TRULY innocent.

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If they have no proof, then what are their accusations based on? No proof = no crime. Sounds like a bunch of paranoid Nazis run the MPAA. "We find you guilty, based on... on...umm, on... that empty folder on your desktop! Yeah! No doubt you deleted the evidence! See, your honor, the defendant is CLEARLY guilty!"

Idiots.
Edited by Diabolical999 - 6/27/08 at 6:30pm
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I thought the idea of justice was innocent until proven guilty?
    
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Originally Posted by Shin2k35 View Post
I thought the idea of justice was innocent until proven guilty?
In criminal court, the standard of guilt is "beyond reasonable doubt" - in civil court (where the lawsuits are) it is much lower.
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