Overclock.net › Forums › Intel › Intel - General › Now a good time?
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Now a good time?

post #1 of 12
Thread Starter 
I've been out of the "scene" for quite some time now and the age of my current system is starting to show. When I had a look at some of the products out now it amazed me how much has changed and I am officially looking to get back into it now that I have a somewhat of an income.

Anyways, right now I can accumulate around $1500 CAD for my new system (obvioulsy from NCIX.com). I was looking at the following parts:



The real problem here is not whether that is a good setup or not (I can tell just by lookin at the specs) but whether or not there are any serious price drops or new technology in the near future. What would you guys recommend? Should I buy those parts to replace the current ones in my sig. system or wait it out for newer parts? What new stuff is coming out?

*Edit: Fixed the memory link.
Edited by civilr - 6/22/08 at 10:18am
Second System
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Q9450 @ 3.6GHz 24/7 EVGA 790i Ultra EVGA 9800 GTX+ 2x2GB G.Skill DDR3 @ 1.8GHz 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
2x36GB WD Raptors RAID0 Vista Ultimate x64 SyncMaster 245BW G15 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
PCP&P 750 Quad CoolerMaster CM 690 Razer Diamondback None 
  hide details  
Reply
Second System
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Q9450 @ 3.6GHz 24/7 EVGA 790i Ultra EVGA 9800 GTX+ 2x2GB G.Skill DDR3 @ 1.8GHz 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
2x36GB WD Raptors RAID0 Vista Ultimate x64 SyncMaster 245BW G15 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
PCP&P 750 Quad CoolerMaster CM 690 Razer Diamondback None 
  hide details  
Reply
post #2 of 12
Your system right now seems fine doesn't it? You could probably just upgrade your video card and hold off for the better things down the line, maybe next year? Let alone, maybe a sound card?! They do take a lot of stress away from the CPU unlike network cards...

Just putting that out there...
post #3 of 12
Personally I see no point in buying that system right now since your current one looks good enough. Maybe just buy more of whatever you think you need (RAM, Video Card, etc.) But compared to my system yours is 20x better and mine still runs cod4 and it looks great. I'd wait
post #4 of 12
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the responses. My system was fine for a while until I started take advantage of the power difference that was offered to me from the upgrade (Sony Vaio PoS => Current System). Now I feel like I am lacking in computing power (doing SETI@Home 24/7) as I try to watch multiple flash videos (I have 2 monitors) and leave a game open (WC3).

I was looking at the new Intel technology coming out (Nehalem) and the estimated speed gains, the prices seem like they will be quite high to begin with and I do not see the gain between a quad Q9450 => quad with Nehalem architecture to be worth doing an upgrade. Seems like it will be a while before they fully develop the octo core variants for mainstream affordable desktop use (late 2009/early 2010).

Figuring I would be able to get my first WC setup going (and probably get into lapping) if I purchase this system now by the time the quad Nehalems go mainstream (early 2009). My system would probably be set (in every sector but the video department) until the octo cores are available for mainstream desktop use (I will probably have a lot more cash by then anyways) with some pretty nice OC's on the Q9450 (hopefully I can get the mem to 2000MHz).

This is pretty much my "plan" but it heavily relies on the idea that there won't be any advancement within the last part of this year (on my current budget level). Can anyone confirm if this is the case and if this plan seems workable?
Second System
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Q9450 @ 3.6GHz 24/7 EVGA 790i Ultra EVGA 9800 GTX+ 2x2GB G.Skill DDR3 @ 1.8GHz 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
2x36GB WD Raptors RAID0 Vista Ultimate x64 SyncMaster 245BW G15 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
PCP&P 750 Quad CoolerMaster CM 690 Razer Diamondback None 
  hide details  
Reply
Second System
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Q9450 @ 3.6GHz 24/7 EVGA 790i Ultra EVGA 9800 GTX+ 2x2GB G.Skill DDR3 @ 1.8GHz 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
2x36GB WD Raptors RAID0 Vista Ultimate x64 SyncMaster 245BW G15 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
PCP&P 750 Quad CoolerMaster CM 690 Razer Diamondback None 
  hide details  
Reply
post #5 of 12
If you're spending that much, wait for Nehalem at the end of this year.

Right now, get a 9800GTX+, more RAM, and 64-bit Vista.
Blackbox.
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Q6600 stock ASUS P5Q Pro Sapphire 4870 1GB 4x2GB G.Skill 800Mhz 5-5-5-15 
Hard DriveOSMonitorPower
250GB & 4x 640GB in Raid5 Vista 64-Bit 22'' Samsung 226BW & 17'' CMV 1280x1024 PC Power & Cooling S75QB 
CaseMouse
Antec Twelve Hundred MX 518 
  hide details  
Reply
Blackbox.
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Q6600 stock ASUS P5Q Pro Sapphire 4870 1GB 4x2GB G.Skill 800Mhz 5-5-5-15 
Hard DriveOSMonitorPower
250GB & 4x 640GB in Raid5 Vista 64-Bit 22'' Samsung 226BW & 17'' CMV 1280x1024 PC Power & Cooling S75QB 
CaseMouse
Antec Twelve Hundred MX 518 
  hide details  
Reply
post #6 of 12
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by low strife View Post
If you're spending that much, wait for Nehalem at the end of this year.

Right now, get a 9800GTX+, more RAM, and 64-bit Vista.
Alright thanks for the suggestion, I did a little more research into the Nehalems and I guess it's something I must figure out at some point soon (before the sale ends). I already have Vista x64 (forgot to update my system) and I really don't need anymore memory 2GB is definitely more than needed for anything I do (Crysis, SETI, heavy browsing, etc...). I am definitely thinking about the 9800GTX right now regardless of the outcome (whether it be this whole new system or just a few parts and waiting).
Second System
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Q9450 @ 3.6GHz 24/7 EVGA 790i Ultra EVGA 9800 GTX+ 2x2GB G.Skill DDR3 @ 1.8GHz 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
2x36GB WD Raptors RAID0 Vista Ultimate x64 SyncMaster 245BW G15 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
PCP&P 750 Quad CoolerMaster CM 690 Razer Diamondback None 
  hide details  
Reply
Second System
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Q9450 @ 3.6GHz 24/7 EVGA 790i Ultra EVGA 9800 GTX+ 2x2GB G.Skill DDR3 @ 1.8GHz 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
2x36GB WD Raptors RAID0 Vista Ultimate x64 SyncMaster 245BW G15 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
PCP&P 750 Quad CoolerMaster CM 690 Razer Diamondback None 
  hide details  
Reply
post #7 of 12
are the Nehalems going to run off of an entire new chip set and all? Would they still be compatable with socket 775?
post #8 of 12
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Domino View Post
are the Nehalems going to run off of an entire new chip set and all? Would they still be compatable with socket 775?
No, the Nehalems are going to be LGA1366 (the mainstream quads). I am unsure what the later octo cores will be though I doubt they will jam them into the same socket as the quads. Wiki has an extensive article on it. Looks like the even later Nehalems (32nm) w/ 6 cores will also run 1366.

Ref: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nehalem_(microarchitecture)
Second System
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Q9450 @ 3.6GHz 24/7 EVGA 790i Ultra EVGA 9800 GTX+ 2x2GB G.Skill DDR3 @ 1.8GHz 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
2x36GB WD Raptors RAID0 Vista Ultimate x64 SyncMaster 245BW G15 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
PCP&P 750 Quad CoolerMaster CM 690 Razer Diamondback None 
  hide details  
Reply
Second System
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Q9450 @ 3.6GHz 24/7 EVGA 790i Ultra EVGA 9800 GTX+ 2x2GB G.Skill DDR3 @ 1.8GHz 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
2x36GB WD Raptors RAID0 Vista Ultimate x64 SyncMaster 245BW G15 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
PCP&P 750 Quad CoolerMaster CM 690 Razer Diamondback None 
  hide details  
Reply
post #9 of 12
Quote:
Originally Posted by civilr View Post
I am definitely thinking about the 9800GTX right now regardless of the outcome (whether it be this whole new system or just a few parts and waiting).
FYI, Radeon HD4850 is a bit faster than the 9800GTX and is also $200.

If you aren't buying now, 9800GTX+ comes out in July for $230. If there's any driver improvements for the HD4850 by that time, it could possibly end up pretty close or above the GTX+ since it tends to take a little while before ATI drivers mature fully.

As for Nehalem, unless you multitask a lot, there's really no point in waiting for it. The differences from Penryn will be minimal for singlethreaded tasks.
Edited by darkcloud89 - 6/22/08 at 3:18pm
post #10 of 12
The 4850 has already proven to kick the 9800GTX in the pants. Or a step up you could buy the 4870 when it is released. Otherwise your system plan looks great to me, but I don't think that the 790i's are really worth it, unless you are SLIing. Otherwise pick up a P45, X48, or X38 which are much better overclockers. I also agree on waiting for Nehalems. They are going to be a very large upgrade. However you can do what you think is best.
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Pentium 4 520 HTT @ 2.8 GHz Dell 0M3918 XFX 8600 GT 256mb 1.5 GB 
Hard DriveOSMonitorPower
160 GB Windows XP Home 32 Bit Dell E173FP Dell 300 Watt 
Case
Dell 4700 
  hide details  
Reply
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Pentium 4 520 HTT @ 2.8 GHz Dell 0M3918 XFX 8600 GT 256mb 1.5 GB 
Hard DriveOSMonitorPower
160 GB Windows XP Home 32 Bit Dell E173FP Dell 300 Watt 
Case
Dell 4700 
  hide details  
Reply
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Intel - General
Overclock.net › Forums › Intel › Intel - General › Now a good time?