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post #21 of 31
wow...way to totally overtake and destroy the thread guys.....and only 2 pages in haha. not one post has been on topic.

personally, i think games, movies etc are built on hidden meanings, where do you think people find the inspiration to write masterpieces like this? The Matrix was the same, so deep and thoughtful, yet riddled with hidden meanings and references to the real world, religion, politics etc.

a lot of these hidden meanings are crazy ideas within a writers head, usually with resentment towards said government or politics, or just personal feelings, which allows for their own kind of expression and attack on those feelings and hates, in the form of literature and other artwork.

PS. Gordon Freeman would make Master Chief piss. we know this. Master Chief knows this. its all good. haha. Gordon Freeman doesnt even speak and people fear him.
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who da phak is Gordon:turd:Freeman?
    
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post #23 of 31
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Originally Posted by Vlasov_581 View Post
who da phak is Gordon:turd:Freeman?
see...people even crap themselves just saying his name. you only got Gordon out before crapping yourself.



ok...im now officially guilty of contributing to destroy this thread.
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I love it that, except for the last post, there was not a single post having anything to do with the source =P.

Good stuff. Sort of.

I think that a good game REVOLVES around excellent story, though it doesn't REQUIRE it. Just saying that a game has excessive story elements and that it therefore isn't good, is naive. Yes, the Half Life games had EXCELLENT story, and the gameplay to back it up. Lots of games have just the gameplay, which still makes for good games (Halo anyone? I lost a lot of time to the game...much more than to Half Life), though usually a little thin. I mean, how many people played through the Halo 2-3 campaign multiple times? And I don't count the times when your super bored, etc, I'm talking you sat down and were like "Dude, I am like totally looking for some mediocre story with decent gameplay!". Not many. Halo 1 however...whatever, to each his own. I loved it.

I loved the OLD MGS games. The first was a downright classic, anyone that thinks otherwise is crazy. Okay, maybe not crazy, but I can still entertain myself with that damn box of his. The rest were meh. However, I can totally see where the story would and could be amazing.

/rant

Btw, Chiefsta > GF. I mean, he has a blue glowy chick stuck in his subconcious. Thats a win in its own right. Gordon Freeman just had a goofy chestpiece, black glasses, and looks like Dr. House.
    
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Originally Posted by Marin View Post
I vote Gordon Freeman as winrar!
Gordon Freeman everyday. just look, even doctor Kleiner could take on Master cooking cheff or whatever he does... Red vs Blue pretty much shows me what I need to know and what Halo is good for.
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majority of xbox live is little children or wise asses but this is not the place nor the time to discuss such a thing.

Gordan Freeman has all the weapons (including gravity gun) and Master Chief has a green suit and maybe a rocket launcher. Gravity gun > rocket launcher.
I'd say forget gordon and master chief


It's all about The MAN... Marcus Fenix
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I'd say forget gordon and master chief


It's all about The MAN... Marcus Fenix
Wha? the topic has been broken...
Hey kid!
You just stepped out of your safe spot kid. Prepare yourself cuz I'm gonna blow it out your ass!
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Man a double post... looks like it takes this much space to be as awesome as the duke
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Originally Posted by OmegaNemesis28 View Post
Gordan Freeman has all the weapons (including gravity gun) and Master Chief has a green suit and maybe a rocket launcher. Gravity gun > rocket launcher.
Yep.

And Freemen is multifaceted. He's a theoretical physicist that can wield a mean crowbar, and not only uses but helps create advanced weaponry...

Tau Cannon > Gravity gun.

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Originally Posted by Somenoob View Post
Mstercheif has a kool name and kool armor and can jump relly high.
Gordon Freman cant talj and every1 acts like he does i mean ***?!?!+ he stil hasn't banged alex so mstercheif>gordan freman


Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr.Taquito View Post
did gordan freeman renter earths atmosphere (sp) not in a spacecraft.
Gordon Freemen reentered this dimension after leaving it.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr.Taquito View Post
did gordan freeman fight off an entier covenent armada?
Gordon Freeman fought off an alien army from another dimension.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr.Taquito View Post
can gordan freeman drive a warthog xD?
haha
Freeman's Tau cannon would make mincemeat out of a Warthog.

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But back to the subject at hand....

IMO: I think an engaging, rich storyline plays a big role in the enjoyment of games (single player, at least). Although it's not necessary to have these attributes in order for the game to be "good", it certainly is something I look for and plays a large role in the overall experience. Even though I can enjoy a game without a riveting plot, it would be hard for me to consider a game "epic" without a thorough and truly enjoyable storyline. Graphics are good, yes. But substance is more important IMO. It's the ol' substance vs. style debate. Myself, I'd rather play a game with horrible graphics and a great story than vice-versa. A good indicator of this is the fact that the vast majority older games (with outdated graphics) that I still enjoy are the ones with great and memorable storylines.
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post #30 of 31
^ lol nice post Choggs.

let's hear it again. dimension

but unfortunately, you missed the topic there. the topic for discussion is, the hidden meanings behind the storylines in video games, not the importance of storylines themselves.

a great storyline is essential in making a great game imo ... maybe not essential, but if a game wants the titles of 'epic' and 'memorable' and the rest linked to their names, they need a solid, original, and meaningful story. the majority of these stories are based on or riddled with hidden meanings.

basically, i believe if a game's story does not have any hidden meanings in it, it is either
A) uninspired or
B) completely 100% un-thought-of originality..a rarity in todays story telling. not necessarily due to a lack of imagination or commitment or skill, but more of a 'it's been done' thing. you can only go so far, telling so many stories, before its already been told the exact same, in just 5 different ways.
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